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Game designer of Braid and The Witness. Partner in IndieFund.

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    2. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      It's obviously flawed as a programming interface. But in my opinion extremely convenient as a user interface.

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    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Unix Philosophy made lots of sense when it was invented. It just doesn't make sense today. Which -- I mean, come on, it's 50 years later, you would HOPE our ideas would have advanced by now.

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    4. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      Well the text interfaces didn’t age very well, but ability to compose simple, general commands to achieve more specific tasks is, in my opinion, as relevant as it was 50 ago.

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    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      I don't think so. Because that is what a program already is. I don't think there should be two totally different kinds of program, that do basically the same thing as each other.

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    6. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      I absolutely agree with the second sentence and I honestly don't see how it's supposed to be caused by "writing programs that do one thing and do it well".

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    7. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Because the complex tasks that people want to do with computers in the year 2020 do not consist of one thing.

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    8. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      Yeah and here we go back to ability to compose programs.

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    9. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      But why are those separate things programs instead of libraries?

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    10. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      I think I start to see your point. They could be libraries, but I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with them being programs and running in separate processes. "text as interface" is imo the problem, but that is caused by how OS implements the idea of a program.

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      If they are programs, then you *also* need libraries that do the same things, for software that doesn't want to suffer from the loose coupling / resource-hogging of running separate programs to accomplish tasks. This redundancy requires more work to understand and maintain.

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        2. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          I generally see Unix programs as acceptable only for interactive usage in shell. And yes I agree that if this would be done with shell just calling existing system libraries it would be better.

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        3. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          What I'm supporting here is model of exposing atomic functionally to user which can be then combined. I agree that it would be generally better to implement it as a set of libraries.

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        4. 󠃲‏ @nuopnu May 23
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          lemme... *cough*... um... terribly sorry for the intrusion... but lemme give you both a heart attack: https://github.com/Apple-FOSS-Mirror/Libc/blob/2ca2ae74647714acfc18674c3114b1a5d3325d7d/gen/wordexp.c#L192 … https://opensource.apple.com/source/Libc/Libc-1044.1.2/gen/FreeBSD/wordexp.c … *runs away*

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        5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          lollercoaster

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