If someone wants to make software with the agenda of deeply simplifying the mess that we today call software, I will be happy to sponsor it:https://twitter.com/github/status/1131476921693474816 …
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Jonathan Blow Retweeted GitHub
If someone wants to make software with the agenda of deeply simplifying the mess that we today call software, I will be happy to sponsor it:https://twitter.com/github/status/1131476921693474816 …
Jonathan Blow added,
https://suckless.org ? The agenda seems to be there.
I think they have generally the right idea, but it looks like they have been around for a number of years and not necessarily that much software has been made? I suspect because they are still tangled up in the complexity of unix, and why if you want to simplify things would
you pick awk as one of the few things you rewrite ... it doesn't make sense to me, because the real problem is the unix philosophy, not awk. 'st' seems alright, except the fact that it's limited to X-Windows is again a big problem (and probably drives complexity).
Looking more, I see that sbase has a lot of programs in it (it was not obvious from the page), but ... again it's just replicating the unix complexity but making it simpler. That's fine, but the real problem is the unix complexity.
Could you elaborate on "the real problem is the unix philosophy"? In the attached interpretation I think we can agree that the third point is naive (and leads smoothly into your critique of LSP in your recent talk). In the other two, [1/]pic.twitter.com/qnTMZDPn3X
the approach of separating complexity into simpler/leaner *programs* can be considered harmful (see vswhere), but do you disagree with the general notion of dividing problems into components and simplifying each of them? [2/]
I think dividing problems into subproblems is important and is the main way things get done when programming. But I think what gets taught in school these days is almost always overdividing, heavily.
I'd like to better understand how to move on from Unix. Taking a random use case like (grep | sort | sed), are you saying there should be one application that can chain all of these things for you (and each functionality could, optionally, be a library for reuse elsewhere)?
I'm saying you should use a library that searches files, a library that sorts, and a library that matches strings. And make an application that calls those libraries.
Gotcha, thanks!
something like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/BusyBox ?
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