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Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23

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bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23

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https://suckless.org ? The agenda seems to be there.

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Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23

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I think they have generally the right idea, but it looks like they have been around for a number of years and not necessarily that much software has been made? I suspect because they are still tangled up in the complexity of unix, and why if you want to simplify things would

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Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23

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you pick awk as one of the few things you rewrite ... it doesn't make sense to me, because the real problem is the unix philosophy, not awk. 'st' seems alright, except the fact that it's limited to X-Windows is again a big problem (and probably drives complexity).

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Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23

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Looking more, I see that sbase has a lot of programs in it (it was not obvious from the page), but ... again it's just replicating the unix complexity but making it simpler. That's fine, but the real problem is the unix complexity.

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@s-ol@merveilles.town‏ @S0lll0s May 23

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Could you elaborate on "the real problem is the unix philosophy"? In the attached interpretation I think we can agree that the third point is naive (and leads smoothly into your critique of LSP in your recent talk). In the other two, [1/]pic.twitter.com/qnTMZDPn3X

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@s-ol@merveilles.town‏ @S0lll0s May 23

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the approach of separating complexity into simpler/leaner *programs* can be considered harmful (see vswhere), but do you disagree with the general notion of dividing problems into components and simplifying each of them? [2/]

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Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23

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I think dividing problems into subproblems is important and is the main way things get done when programming. But I think what gets taught in school these days is almost always overdividing, heavily.

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1. @s-ol@merveilles.town‏ @S0lll0s May 23
  
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  "Design Patterns" and "best practices" bring their own complexity with them. It's then tempting to divide along those fresh concepts' edges, which doesn't help but may feel like progress.
  
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