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Game designer of Braid and The Witness. Partner in IndieFund.

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    1. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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    2. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      https://suckless.org  ? The agenda seems to be there.

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    3. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      I think they have generally the right idea, but it looks like they have been around for a number of years and not necessarily that much software has been made? I suspect because they are still tangled up in the complexity of unix, and why if you want to simplify things would

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    4. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      Replying to @Jonathan_Blow

      I'm not really sure if Unix APIs are the reason why they have so few projects. I always assumed it's more like typical side project dynamics where people come and go and at some point the whole party is over.

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    5. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      I don't just mean the APIs, I mean, the fact that there are 69105 different command-line programs that all do tiny jobs, that talk to each other through weakly-typed, error-prone text. Those should be API calls in a library, not executables.

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    6. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      I would say that most of the Unix tools make sense for *interactive* usage, where errors caused by text interface are more immediate and apparent. The things get hairy when people try to immortalize them in shell scripts without handling any edge cases.

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    7. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      That said not all Unix tools are made equal and many of them evolved in nearly pathological ways. I generally like the idea but I find the current set of tools to be far too large and most of them far too complex. I would say it all happened despite the Unix philosophy.

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    9. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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      Replying to @FreeScotchFree @Jonathan_Blow

      It's obviously flawed as a programming interface. But in my opinion extremely convenient as a user interface.

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      Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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      Replying to @belickim @FreeScotchFree

      Unix Philosophy made lots of sense when it was invented. It just doesn't make sense today. Which -- I mean, come on, it's 50 years later, you would HOPE our ideas would have advanced by now.

      8:12 AM - 23 May 2019
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        1. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @FreeScotchFree

          Well the text interfaces didn’t age very well, but ability to compose simple, general commands to achieve more specific tasks is, in my opinion, as relevant as it was 50 ago.

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        2. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @belickim @FreeScotchFree

          I don't think so. Because that is what a program already is. I don't think there should be two totally different kinds of program, that do basically the same thing as each other.

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        3. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          Replying to @Jonathan_Blow @FreeScotchFree

          I absolutely agree with the second sentence and I honestly don't see how it's supposed to be caused by "writing programs that do one thing and do it well".

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        4. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @belickim @FreeScotchFree

          Because the complex tasks that people want to do with computers in the year 2020 do not consist of one thing.

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        5. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          Yeah and here we go back to ability to compose programs.

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        6. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @belickim @FreeScotchFree

          But why are those separate things programs instead of libraries?

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        7. bélitzky‏ @belickim May 23
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          I think I start to see your point. They could be libraries, but I don't think there is anything fundamentally wrong with them being programs and running in separate processes. "text as interface" is imo the problem, but that is caused by how OS implements the idea of a program.

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        8. Jonathan Blow‏ @Jonathan_Blow May 23
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          Replying to @belickim @FreeScotchFree

          If they are programs, then you *also* need libraries that do the same things, for software that doesn't want to suffer from the loose coupling / resource-hogging of running separate programs to accomplish tasks. This redundancy requires more work to understand and maintain.

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