Do you think there would be any utility or usefulness in someone who is squarely in the incel demographic writing about why their ideas are wrong and how they had some of those ideas in their teens are eventually rejected them?
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Yes, god, yes.
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Could you shoot me a quick DM?
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Actually forget that. I could write that piece, but what I would want is an editor to look at it before I put it anywhere. Do you know of a decent place I could use to find and pay for an editor?
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I'm a 40 year old spinster (but cute as a button) and I am terrified to continue dating. And I'm not being dramatic. I really may just get some acreage and goats.
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I think we’ve convinced women that romance is how to find love, but most of us in relationships are doing all the work to make others feel loved. I’m not against relationships, just saying there’s a reason Society has to sell women on the idea.
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A lot of my friends don't even date because any guy who puts effort into their appearance is popular and doesn't want to be committed. They don't need to have decent personalities because they're rare.
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The ones who aren’t dating might be onto something. We all suffer from inadequate intimacy but relationships aren’t going to fix that. They just give us someone to blame for our loneliness. I propose being truly present for each person in your life 1/2
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For women it is usually easier because we tend to have more emotional connections with friends and family. Men need to be taught that it's okay to show emotions and to confide in friends.
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Absolutely. Though young me was self-absorbed & w/out social skills. I gained empathy by trying to make relationships work (romantic&other). Finally realized the only one-way relationships are w/ my kids. I give all my best but...
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Women are already expected to do so much emotional labour for free. We are supposed to be pleasant all the time, and also to make sure other people feel good. It's like permanent customer service even if we are just walking down the street or sitting on a train.
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It's terrible that impressionable, sad people are finding echo chambers of weaponized and radicalized hate rather than forums that encourage them to try the more mature step of treating women like actual people rather than sexual gumball machines.
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That being said, the Annual Incel Picnic And Pool Party doesn't sound like a particularly pleasant event, but it would at least be kind of a healthy step. Anything to encourage real human interaction, I suppose.
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Like basically all toxic masculinity it’s about men having A Feeling and being unwillling/unable to process it in any other way than ‘make it a woman’s problem’
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Agreed. Pick Up Artist literature tends to lay the "blame" at the man's own feet, fixable with some lifestyle changes and one easy payment. Incel and similar communities accuse society instead.
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I guess the question is why different people gravitate to different responses.
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I spent a lot of time lurking in /r/incel (morbid curiosity) before it was banned, I saw a lot of guys come in who were sincerely looking for support and just got torn down by that community. It’s a true crab mentality with them and its disturbing
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I once thought, "Oh, cool. Support for lonely people." Then, I visited the forums....pic.twitter.com/hxt1G90XUd
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Yeah exactly! These sites/forums advertise themselves as just being about providing support, when really they just do the opposite
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