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Jelte Wicherts

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Professor in methodology. Tweets about meta-research, intelligence, open science, methods, and bias & error in (psychological) science. Also proud father of 3

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    Jelte Wicherts‏ @JelteWicherts Jan 30

    Largest experiment of stereotype threat in high schools ever (N=2064) shows no effect of gender stereotypes on math performance (contrary to dozens of previous non-registered small studies in the literature) https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/23743603.2018.1559647 …pic.twitter.com/bgq9Hqyf4U

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      2. sjh_canada‏ @sjh_canada Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        The study says that test results are more affected by "domain identification" = whether the person thinks math is important to them. Probably there is a deeper reason why they became people who don't care about math.

        3 replies 1 retweet 12 likes
      3. Michael Cain-Pruis‏ @TheMessyChefy Jan 31
        Replying to @sjh_canada @JelteWicherts

        I would hypothesis that academic performance in Math would be the largest contributor to domain identification. To speak anecdotally, you'll find many people base their enjoyment of a said subject based on grades. If you do poorly, you're unlikely to see it as important to you.

        2 replies 1 retweet 17 likes
      4. Tess‏ @tessjdt Jan 31
        Replying to @TheMessyChefy @sjh_canada @JelteWicherts

        Interesting observation. My older son hates math while my daughter and younger son love it. The ones who loved it get As: other son barely gets by. My daughter is studying in a STEM field and my youngest son wants to be a scientist he is 8. Older son has no desire in a math field

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      5. Michael Cain-Pruis‏ @TheMessyChefy Jan 31
        Replying to @tessjdt @sjh_canada @JelteWicherts

        It was also the case for my brother and I. As such, I entered into study within the humanties after receiving extremely high scores in English and just loved writing. My brother gets extremely high scores in Math, and went on to do an Engineering degree and loves it.

        1 reply 1 retweet 2 likes
      6. jack martin‏ @jackmar10745832 Jan 31
        Replying to @TheMessyChefy @tessjdt and

        Shows you why decent teaching when very young is so important. By the time they're in secondary school their enjoyment bias has kicked in pretty heavily, opening or closing doors accordingly. Talent matters but love of subject gives you drive.

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      2. Steve Sailer‏ @Steve_Sailer Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        Probably the best evidence for stereotype threat comes from fields where society doesn't care about effects of racial stereotypes that might discourage the stereotyped. E.g., white cornerbacks and 100m sprinters have become rarer as stereotypes of black superiority spread.

        5 replies 1 retweet 18 likes
      3. CPofKY‏ @adsalespro Jan 31
        Replying to @Steve_Sailer @JelteWicherts

        Or, as racial barriers fell, and the pool of athletes playing football and running track expanded to include more blacks, those that were quicker and faster just happened to be black. The stopwatch is truly colorblind.

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Jan 31
        Replying to @adsalespro @Steve_Sailer @JelteWicherts

        Not really.https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/04/why-kenyans-make-such-great-runners-a-story-of-genes-and-cultures/256015/ …

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      5. CPofKY‏ @adsalespro Jan 31
        Replying to @smith_valence @Steve_Sailer @JelteWicherts

        Agreed. Genes and culture are huge but athletic success is not based stereotype

        4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Valence Smith‏ @smith_valence Jan 31
        Replying to @adsalespro @Steve_Sailer @JelteWicherts

        I don't think so either. Stereotypes mainly affect one thing, what you choose to try. Once you try it, your experience with it matter way more than any stereotype. Defying stereotypes can be fun.

        0 replies 0 retweets 1 like
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      2. Lotty Brand‏ @LottyBrand22 Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        Nice! Does not surprise me after delving into that literature during my PhD (and reminds me I need to publish/preprint my chapter 3 and get it out of the file drawer...! 🙈 https://research-repository.st-andrews.ac.uk/bitstream/handle/10023/13001/CharlotteBrandPhDThesis.pdf?sequence=3&isAllowed=y …

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      1. Simon DeDeo‏ @SimonDeDeo Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        Does stereotype correlate with domain identification?

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      2. EJT‏ @thribb Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts @dpinsen

        "Received 25 Jan 2018, Accepted 13 Dec 2018" Wait ... what?

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      3. Karolina Urbanska‏ @karo_urb Jan 31
        Replying to @thribb @JelteWicherts @dpinsen

        This could perhaps refer to when Stage 1 was received? So data collection would happen during this time.

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      1. Erin‏ @Urimountains Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        Sounds right to me. Always top of class in math, never felt I was expected to perform less than males.

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      2. Maud‏ @maaaud Jan 31
        Replying to @JelteWicherts

        Is the issue not gendered differences in uptake at higher levels of maths, rather than performance? We know girls are good at maths, they consistently outperform boys at GCSE. But then the boys go on to do A level and the girls don't. Why?

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. BloodFartTheQueefer‏ @bloodfartqueef Feb 1
        Replying to @maaaud @JelteWicherts

        different interests. Even minor differences could lead to major changes in post-secondary education (after all ,you only choose 1-1.5 subjects to focus on. If you have a slight preference for math compared to females than they will select it way more often)

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      4. Maud‏ @maaaud Feb 2
        Replying to @bloodfartqueef @JelteWicherts

        I'm sorry, I'm afraid there are two things about this tweet that make it extremely difficult to take seriously.

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      5. BloodFartTheQueefer‏ @bloodfartqueef Feb 2
        Replying to @maaaud @JelteWicherts

        which two things? I found a typo. I meant "if males have a slight preference". For example, in high school I did equally well in calculus, physics and chemistry, but I had a slight preference for chemistry. We should expect the same for any sex-differences, regardless of aptitude

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