Wow. How about the editors, copy desk, photo desk, researchers, proofreaders, et al who never get any recognition? Check your privilege. @brianstelter @jimrutenberg @claireatki
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As someone who works in a newspaper and often edits work of others you’re completely wrong about others credit. There’s a difference between composing something nd working on it.
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No page 1 story is one person’s work - not even mostly one person’s work. Then again, I’m just someone who worked in a newspaper and often edited works of other…
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Where did I say just one person? I work at a newspaper right now and completely disagree with you. Copy editors don’t expect authorship credit. Maybe you do and you’re bitter?
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Maybe you’re an ass. But yeh, you do you.
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I found his remarks respectful and cogent. If you want to be an author, write the article. A proofreader or editor or researcher shouldn't be on the byline. I want to know who is taking responsibility, too.
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And if someone else got a quote as part of their research they are always listed as “additional reporting by” at the bottom. These are good conventions and should stand.
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Absolutely! I’m a paid subscriber to both
@washingtonpost and the@nytimes. I want to know who wrote a story I’m reading so I can become familiar with each writer’s writing style and area of expertise. -
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The bylines are there on the story, just not on the homepage. When someone is reading, they absolutely see the byline and know who the author is every time. That hasn’t changed.
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You're correct - the author's name IS on the homepage. But the author's name should also be on the homepage, by the headline, IMHO. I want to see the author's name *before* I click to read the report.
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To use my previous analogy, Suppose a C-SPAN promo told us a
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Yes, I know the analogy is not exact - I can sooner tell who the reporter is in an NYT article by clicking the link than waiting for a television interview in my little thought experiment. Nonetheless, I think putting reporter's names on the homepage is important.
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Totally fair POV. My reaction was to your initial tweet, which states as if NYT removing bylines altogether... that's not what's happening here, which we agree on. You make good points, though, for keeping.
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I'll be honest - You called my attention to the fact that bylines were *not* gone altogether. A fact I should have known as a NYT reader. Thank you for calling that fact to my attention.
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I find myself clicking on fewer pieces because I don’t know who the writers are.
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Me too
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Most readers don't care about bylines
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A) how would you know this? And B) I totally care about bylines
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