Jayarava जयरव 勝鳴 on Twitter: "@Meaningness Interpreting the 3rd precept for a Western context is interesting. Westerners are *very* naive. So have to be treated like kids"

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David Chapman ‏@Meaningness 16 Sep 2015

I hoped that after taking a week off from the “ethics in mindfulness meditation” debate, it would all make sense. pic.twitter.com/YZpCTM2XQ8

5:19 PM - 16 Sep 2015 · Details
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Jayarava जयरव 勝鳴 ‏@Jayarava 18 Sep 2015

@Meaningness The primary importance of all systems of ethics is as a point of leverage to enforce group norms.
David Chapman ‏@Meaningness 18 Sep 2015

@Jayarava Yes… In the case of “Consensus Buddhism,” the norms are mainstream American leftish norms. This gets called “Buddhist ethics…”
David Chapman ‏@Meaningness 18 Sep 2015

@Jayarava I don’t have much quarrel with the norms, but the pretense that they are Buddhist rubs me the wrong way.
Jayarava जयरव 勝鳴 ‏@Jayarava 18 Sep 2015

@Meaningness well... Buddhist ethics *do* have a definite content - e.g. pañcasīla, dasakusalakammapatha etc.
David Chapman ‏@Meaningness 18 Sep 2015

@Jayarava Yeah, but the Consensus allows vast, nebulous loopholes in those, so they’re completely non-operative although paid lipservice too
David Chapman ‏@Meaningness 18 Sep 2015

@Jayarava “Buddhists are required to avoid sexual misconduct, but it is not clear what this means in California.”—Quote < Consensus Teacher

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@Meaningness Interpreting the 3rd precept for a Western context is interesting. Westerners are *very* naive. So have to be treated like kids

7:19 AM - 18 Sep 2015

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