j.r. leonard

You keep asking me about what “we could have gotten” and that has nothing to do with what I’m talking about

Well you’re the one saying we should have eleminated “cartels.” Do you actually think that was possible in 2009? It was your proposal not mine.

That’s not what I said. I said that it’s absurd to make support for the ACA the litmus test for who’s moral or immoral. You’re free to like it. You’re free to think it was necessary and the only thing possible, but that doesn’t make you a better person to people who don’t like it

Is there a moral defense of not passing it, where it’s considered morally preferable for millions of people to continue without having insurance?

Putting the good of the many ahead of the good of the few is a commonly held moral view across most traditions.

Exactly, and the golden rule. Do unto others and you would have done unto yourself. Nobody doesn’t want healthcare.

So, the Golden Rule and many religious traditions say that you should support the ACA? Sounds like Trump language. I mean I admire the audacity, but no. None of this works that way

Amazing job at twisting all that up and then calling it Trumpian. The point was getting more people healthcare is a moral good. That’s not exactly controversial. It’s pretty universally accepted that just letting people go without treatment is immoral.