j.r. leonard

That’s not what I said. I said that it’s absurd to make support for the ACA the litmus test for who’s moral or immoral. You’re free to like it. You’re free to think it was necessary and the only thing possible, but that doesn’t make you a better person to people who don’t like it

That’s pretty much what Bernie supporters do in making support for M4A the litmus test for who really cares about their fellow human beings and who’s a corporate shill. It’s more wokelympics

You call it woke I call it making sure everyone has healthcare. The alternative being proposed is just repeal of the ACA. That’s not better by any measure. It would cause more preventable deaths.

I don't like Bernie's M4A for a lot of reasons, but aiming to massively expand lifesaving health coverage is a good and IMO moral act.

Why do you two keep saying this stuff as if that’s what I’m arguing? I’m not arguing the pros and cons of any plan. I’m arguing against the idea you can pick a specific plan and claim that anyone against it is acting immorally. You CAN do that, but that’s moralizing

It seems like you’re saying there’s no moral component to getting people healthcare or not

No. I’m saying that there a number of ways to get people healthcare and you don’t get to claim the moral superiority of one particulate one cause that’s the best the Dems could do Again, you can if you want, but most people are going to laugh you off

IT IS THE BEST WE COULD DO. what alternative plan do you think we had the votes for?