Vouchers and charter schools are different. Charter schools have some success in some specific areas, usually areas where public schools failed bc of poor administration. They are comparably worse as the public schools system improves. Prob even out at slightly below avg.
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Replying to @ersatzverite @J_RtheWriter and
Vouchers don’t work much of anywhere if the standard is educational attainment. My understanding is that most parents like schools that reflect their social values instead of provide a good education, so educational attainment is only relevant for we nerds.
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Then perhaps schooling should have less to do with parents personal preferences and more to do with high public educational quality. Amazing idea I know.
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This is the trend. People with money get choices. Poor people get their lives designed and dictated by well-meaning technocrats. Is it crazy to suggest that maybe this way doesn’t lead to the best outcomes?
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Imagine how much better public schools would be if they were funded equally instead of based on local property taxes... which literally punishes poor communities with shittier schools
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Vermont majorly improved average school quality by moving from property tax base to state pool and redistribute. They are looking to overturn it 20 years later bc rich communities don’t like it.
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Replying to @ersatzverite @kstreethipster and
Which may be an argument about the limits of liberal Utopianism.
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Arguing the limits of liberal Utopianism has been my whole point Just because you’ve designed the perfect plan on paper, doesn’t mean it’s going to weather the economic and political realities of the world. You should be constantly updating your priors based on results
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The political environment in the US is particularly toxic to getting gov't to do certain types of things, which is why handing out money is often a good default measure. That being said, it doesn't have to be that way, and having the gov't succeed more pushes against that view.
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I think that’s an understatement. There is a history of racism and white supremacy that compromises the government’s ability to deliver public services equally and efficiently And it doesn’t get addressed enough because it doesn’t map well into existing left-right politics
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You can’t talk about housing and education without noting that the existing structures are there to allow certain people to retreat into enclaves explicitly designed to limit those people’s interactions with other people not wealthy enough or white enough to be there
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That also might be why a majority minority city did public housing better than more white dominant regions.
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Possibly, but here’s history there too. The relegation of public hosing to certain areas had the support of minority politicians, because it preserved their voting base. Great book on this very topic:https://www.amazon.com/American-Project-Rise-Modern-Ghetto/dp/0674008308 …
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