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    1. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      So should we never point out this kind of behavior then? Sigh. What good are ethics if we can’t discuss them?

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    2. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Oct 17
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      Moralizing is not ethics

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    3. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      It literally is. Harming people for your own self interest is unethical. It’s the golden rule: the center of all ethics. Do unto others as you would have them do to you.

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    4. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Oct 17
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      No. Ethical discussion involve establishing an ethical framework, thinking through various lines of moral reasoning, and an honest assessment of counterfactuals and differing opinions. Assuming you’re right and lecturing other people for not agreeing with you is moralizing

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    5. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      Ok well my ethical framework is utilitarian satisfaction of human needs. The greatest good for the greatest number. And in my view selfish financial interest is not more important than health insurance. And it’s malicious to have that kind of selfishness because it harms others.

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    6. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      “All these people aren’t my problem” isn’t just some opinion, it’s a set of really malicious values. Values that harm the society as a whole.

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    7. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Oct 17
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      The other aspect of meaningful ethical discussions is refraining from offering these kinds of very weak straw man characterizations of people who might disagree

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    8. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      It’s literally the same rationale you yourself stated for why some people opposed the law. Their own personal financial self interest. So is the straw man yours as much as mine?

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    9. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Oct 17
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      I believe you believe this, but I suggest that part of your frustration with politics stems from an unwillingness to accept that other people have informed, good-faith disagreements with your preferred policies Or maybe not. Maybe you’ve figured it all out. Who knows?

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    10. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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      Idk what the good faith rationale would be unless it’s genuinely “ok” to care more about your own pocketbook than whether other humans get to go to the doctor.

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      j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Oct 17
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      I revert to my point about hubris

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        1. manic tipsy scene girl‏ @kstreethipster Oct 17
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          Do you think it’s hubris at all to prefer your own finances over people without insurance? Or am I the only one with hubris here? No hubris in kissing off the 20 million who got insured? None?

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