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    1. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      Replying to @J_RtheWriter @MCunninghamAJC @delong

      There are a number of problems with this take, the first of which is that the voters, whom our press is entrusted with informing, are not at all comparable to the passive spectators of a sporting event. They (we) are active, vital participants in the process at hand.

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    2. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      There's a reason the press has been designated historically as "the Fourth Estate." They have an important role in the democratic process, as do the public they inform.

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    3. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      But also: to insist the press should be striving for "accuracy," but without seeking to discern "truth," seems like a rather...unwieldy imperative

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    4. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Jun 6
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      I’m not insisting on anything. Journalists should do whatever hey want to do. I’m making a factual claim that almost no journalists have the ability to discern the “truth” of what they’re reporting. They’re just not qualified. And we see the results of this every day

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    5. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      That's not a factual claim it's a highly subjective, sweeping and unprovable generalization. A factual claim would be something like "the new Prince release is posted now and Jay has no more time for this back and forth"

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    6. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Jun 6
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      No. It’s a fact because it can be investigated. For example, most science journalists are qualified to report on the state of scientific discovery, but their ability to assess the truth of the underlying science is limited by the fact that they’re journalists, not scientists

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    7. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      Replying to @J_RtheWriter @MCunninghamAJC @delong

      Putting aside the set of assumptions/generalizations here about the background of science journalists, the scenario you lay out here is not comparable to the sort of discernment of truth and falsehood we've been discussing in this thread.

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    8. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      What you describe there would be more akin to the press attempting to adjudicate whether a particular policy objective is sound or achievable. That's not what we're' talking about here.

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    9. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Jun 6
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      Replying to @jsmooth995 @MCunninghamAJC @delong

      Then we’re in agreement. The press should spend less time trying to make normative judgments about truth and more time doing good reporting. And good reporting has nothin to do with refereeing

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    10. jay smooth‏ @jsmooth995 Jun 6
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      We are not. :) And there is, definitionally, no "good reporting" without any assessment of truth.

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      j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Jun 6
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      I don’t think that we’re that far apart. I think it’s mostly semantics. My overall point is that when journalists try to arbitrate truth, the result is sub par, but when they focus on the accurate reporting, the truth takes care of itself

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