That depends entirely on where you live, which makes Obama’s statements false. If you want to get postmodern and say it’s not factually correct but it hints at a deeper truth, fine. I guess
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
It does not depend entirely upon where you live. Guns are widely and easily available to almost everybody at practically any time. If they were in fact difficult to get, there wouldn't be hundreds of millions of them floating around. And this, in a nutshell, is the problem.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
OK, so we’re going the post-modern, truthiness route. Got it
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
That's not it at all. We've got you pretending like it's difficult to get guns, which it isn't. Your objection seems to be that it isn't even easier. That's not the same as it being meaningfully difficult.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Of the 3 places I’ve lived in the US (NYC, DC, and AK) it was only possible for me to legally buy and keep a gun in 1. I guess I could go to a state with less regulation and buy one, but it would be illegal as soon as I got home. That right there falsifies Obama’s statement
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Unless there is something else precluding you from ownership, research suggests you can have guns in DC and NYC.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Does your research include actually trying to get a permit or the difference btw shall issue or may issue? Regulations in place make it effectively impossible to get a gun permit in either of those cities, unless you’re very wealthy or politically connected (even after Heller)
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
You're the one who wrote you weren't allowed to legally buy and keep a gun in either place. Unless there's a legal reason for that, you were, and are, legally allowed to buy and keep a gun in both places.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
This is what I mean about having to really stretch the truth in odd ways to make a false statement appear true. I said from the beginning that it is effectively impossible for a large number of Americans to get guns because of where they live.
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Whereas, it is possible to get guns, but you want the process to be much simpler. There's nothing wrong with saying that, as opposed to claiming something is impossible (when, in fact, it is quite possible), especially when claiming that the other side is stretching the truth.
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This has nothing to do with what I want. I’m not trying to litigate the rightness or wrongness of US gun laws. This is about whether Obama’s statement is true or false. And it’s false. You can admit that and still want stronger gun laws.
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