Gun laws vary, mostly by density. NY and CA have very different gun laws than AK and WY. Most Americans live somewhere where there are significant regulations on owning and keeping guns. In many cities, it’s effectively impossible
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Counterpoint: gun laws are extremely lax, both allowing widespread gunownership and enabling catastrophic outcomes.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
That depends entirely on where you live, which makes Obama’s statements false. If you want to get postmodern and say it’s not factually correct but it hints at a deeper truth, fine. I guess
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
It does not depend entirely upon where you live. Guns are widely and easily available to almost everybody at practically any time. If they were in fact difficult to get, there wouldn't be hundreds of millions of them floating around. And this, in a nutshell, is the problem.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
OK, so we’re going the post-modern, truthiness route. Got it
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
That's not it at all. We've got you pretending like it's difficult to get guns, which it isn't. Your objection seems to be that it isn't even easier. That's not the same as it being meaningfully difficult.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Of the 3 places I’ve lived in the US (NYC, DC, and AK) it was only possible for me to legally buy and keep a gun in 1. I guess I could go to a state with less regulation and buy one, but it would be illegal as soon as I got home. That right there falsifies Obama’s statement
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Unless there is something else precluding you from ownership, research suggests you can have guns in DC and NYC.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Does your research include actually trying to get a permit or the difference btw shall issue or may issue? Regulations in place make it effectively impossible to get a gun permit in either of those cities, unless you’re very wealthy or politically connected (even after Heller)
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
Are we talking about gun ownership or a concealed carry permit?
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I’m talking about simply getting a gun permit. There are a very small number of people in NYC who can meet the criteria and successfully negotiate the process, which apparently even when successful takes months
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