Gun laws vary, mostly by density. NY and CA have very different gun laws than AK and WY. Most Americans live somewhere where there are significant regulations on owning and keeping guns. In many cities, it’s effectively impossible
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Counterpoint: gun laws are extremely lax, both allowing widespread gunownership and enabling catastrophic outcomes.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
That depends entirely on where you live, which makes Obama’s statements false. If you want to get postmodern and say it’s not factually correct but it hints at a deeper truth, fine. I guess
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
It does not depend entirely upon where you live. Guns are widely and easily available to almost everybody at practically any time. If they were in fact difficult to get, there wouldn't be hundreds of millions of them floating around. And this, in a nutshell, is the problem.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
OK, so we’re going the post-modern, truthiness route. Got it
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
That's not it at all. We've got you pretending like it's difficult to get guns, which it isn't. Your objection seems to be that it isn't even easier. That's not the same as it being meaningfully difficult.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Of the 3 places I’ve lived in the US (NYC, DC, and AK) it was only possible for me to legally buy and keep a gun in 1. I guess I could go to a state with less regulation and buy one, but it would be illegal as soon as I got home. That right there falsifies Obama’s statement
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
Sure, but in AK you could have 47 of them. But, seriously, DC and NYC are huge outliers. That's not true in the rest of NY state is it? I know it's not true where I live in CA, and I'm about as close as you can get to SF without being there.
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Replying to @_mike_schilling @J_RtheWriter and
The claim made was a gun. I'm not seeing anything which prevents an individual from having a gun, barring a legal reason. Can somebody point me to the specific law that prevents an individual from owning a gun in either DC or NYC?
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Replying to @samwilkinson @_mike_schilling and
Here’s a link to someone trying the process in NYC: https://professional-troublemaker.com/2016/03/09/is-it-really-impossible-to-get-a-gun-license-in-nyc-part-i/ … Compare this to “anybody... at any time... w/o much regulation”
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In DC after Heller, there were no licensed gun stores in the District and the law stated that you could only bring in a legal weapon - one you already owned - through a licensed dealer. There was only one licensed dealer in the city
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