Just so I'm clear here, we're upset that Obama pretty accurately described how unbelievably easy it is to get a gun?
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
Gun laws vary, mostly by density. NY and CA have very different gun laws than AK and WY. Most Americans live somewhere where there are significant regulations on owning and keeping guns. In many cities, it’s effectively impossible
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @vikrambath1 and
Counterpoint: gun laws are extremely lax, both allowing widespread gunownership and enabling catastrophic outcomes.
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Replying to @samwilkinson @vikrambath1 and
That depends entirely on where you live, which makes Obama’s statements false. If you want to get postmodern and say it’s not factually correct but it hints at a deeper truth, fine. I guess
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
He also said "Anyone can" leaving out the fact that people under 21 and felons can't. Does that make it a falsehood, or is "the vast majority of adults" understood?
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Replying to @_mike_schilling @samwilkinson and
Yes. It does make it a falsehood, because that’s how falsehoods work. The statement, “anybody can buy any weapon, any time without much, if any, regulation” is false. You want to call it hyperbole, fine, but hyperbole is by definition not accurate
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
I don't think anyone in the world understood "anybody" to include toddlers.
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Replying to @_mike_schilling @samwilkinson and
OK. How about the 8 million residents of NYC? How far do you want to defend an obviously false statement just because it supports your point of view?
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
Yes, that was a serious exaggeration.
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Replying to @_mike_schilling @J_RtheWriter and
Gospel truth compared to anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, of course. And this is the irritating part. It's like when a Washington Post story gets called a lie for getting some details wrong, when the Washington Times gets a pass for complete BS, because we expect that.
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How about we just call false false regardless of who’s saying it and make our political arguments to one another in true and accurate statements?
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Replying to @J_RtheWriter @samwilkinson and
No statement is completely true of accurate. We'd have to agree to do the same level of nitpicking on statements we do and don't disagree with. Which is a great ideal.
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