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    1. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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      Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy Retweeted Matt Walsh

      Also the Celtics are required to retire Magic Johnson’s number.https://twitter.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1121897703049396224 …

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      Matt WalshVerified account @MattWalshBlog
      I understand condemning the confederacy for slavery. But condemning it for treason is silly considering our country was founded by traitors who would have been executed had they lost. If “we don’t honor traitors,” we can’t honor George Washington. https://twitter.com/Nick_Volpe/status/1121893655621533697 …
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    2. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Apr 27
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      If in an alternate timeline, the New England states and Pennsylvania had succeeded from the Union to create a new slavery-free nation, would you care that they were traitors? I wouldn’t?

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    3. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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      Replying to @J_RtheWriter

      That a country should honor and glorify its enemies - or that anyone actually even really wants us to start doing that that - is a dopey argument, no matter how many clever debating gambits you put around it.

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    4. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Apr 27
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      I’m not trying to be clever. New nations form all the time, almost always through violence. The problem with the Confederacy wasn’t secession, it was slavery. John Brown was a traitor, as well. I’d happily see statues of him

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    5. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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      You can’t expect to be a traitor to any country and have statues erected to you by that same country after you lose, slave state or otherwise. The British would absolutely NOT have put a statue to Washington in Trafalgar Square if they had lost. That’s silly.

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    6. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Apr 27
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      Not trying to play gotcha games. Legitimately interested: how do you feel about about a John Brown statue?

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    7. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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      Honestly would feel fine about it. But I wouldn’t demand it be placed in Pottawatomie Creek town square and would sure as s**t understand why people there wouldn’t want one erected.

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      j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Apr 27
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      OK. I guess the difference is that the traitor label just doesn’t mean that much to me. Being right or wrong about slavery means way more to me than loyalty to the Union

      8:52 AM - 27 Apr 2019
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        1. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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          Replying to @J_RtheWriter

          There is a whole lot of real estate in between "that guy betrayed some other guy" and "that guy betrayed us." It's the "betrayed us" part that makes the argument that he deserves our reverence dopey, and (coming from Matt, at least) one made in bad faith.

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        1. Bourbon-Soaked Tod w/ Giblet Gravy‏ @RTodKelly Apr 27
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          I don't disagree. This is now a different argument than where we started.

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        2. j.r. leonard‏ @J_RtheWriter Apr 27
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          My thoughts: in the context of defending Lee or any Confederate, the argument is nonsense. As a discrete point, it’s right. Treason is a very subjective thing that exists orthogonal to objective issues of right and wrong. There are plenty of righteous traitors and evil patriots

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