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    1. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist

      My method is consistent and doesn’t require hitting kids. And, yes, despite your wanting to use euphemism that’s precisely what spanking is. It literally requires striking a child

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    2. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @coreybowers

      I sincerely wish your children never do anything naughty enough to make you revisit your convictions. But I would point out that children vary wildly. 35 children a day are expelled from U.K. education establishments for serious and sometimes criminal misbehaviour.

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    3. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist @coreybowers

      There is a long tail of very bad behaviour for which it is my conviction that they only way to save them from themselves is through severe punishments of which corporal punishment should be a part.

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    4. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist

      Granting that I only read the abstract, the one study you linked to says most studies find not hitting methods as effective. Only when you highly filter hitting methods(but, based on the abstract, not non hitting methods) can hitting compete

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    5. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
      Replying to @coreybowers @IronEconomist

      It’s probably worthwhile to work on teaching parents to refine methods that don’t include actions that, if used against another adult, would be considered criminal

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    6. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @coreybowers

      This is a terrible argument. Anyone who has been to a rally and seen riot cops know that we often use the threat of force, and sometimes actual force, to check the behaviour of adults. Because people are terrible.

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    7. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist @coreybowers

      Sometimes parents must be to children as police are to citizens.

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    8. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist

      Seriously, just go back and say “sometimes you need to beat the shit out of a kid”

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    9. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @coreybowers

      My original objection is that characterising it as hitting is demonising a large number of parents for a practice that they believe are in the best interest of their children. That is obviously a bad and uncharitable think to do.

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    10. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
      Replying to @IronEconomist

      Your objection is to an accurate description. It is hitting. Many people think that doing something bad is beneficial. That doesn’t mean the rest of us should abstain from describing it accurately

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      Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
      Replying to @coreybowers

      This is like the people who describe male circumcision as child abuse. It’s just a false characterisation designed to demonise people.

      2:12 PM - 5 Nov 2018
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        2. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
          Replying to @IronEconomist

          Sorry, but no. “Hitting” is an entirely accurate word. There’s no false characterization in using the term., despite your strong desire to simultaneously celebrate violence and demand some bizzaro politically correct euphemism be used

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        3. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
          Replying to @coreybowers

          The most accurate word to describe spanking is spanking. Using a broader term just tries to lump spanking in with, eg, punching. Punching is also hitting. But punching is not spanking. You are clearly trying to use those connotations to imply spanking is akin to abuse.

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        4. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
          Replying to @IronEconomist

          The way to think about this is if spanking were *abnormal* How would you react to parents who wanted to physically strike a child despite weak, at best, evidence that it would be more(or even as) effective as non physical discipline?

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        5. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
          Replying to @coreybowers

          This isn’t a sensible way to think about it. They way to think about it is like any other medical or social intervention. As a cost benefit. Moreover, like other interventions, it can be highly effective for some people while having nasty negative side effects in others.

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        6. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
          Replying to @IronEconomist @coreybowers

          You seem to be under the misapprehension that there is a right way and a a wrong way to parent. More likely different interventions work for different children, and that spanking is part of the optimal punishment regime for some fraction of children.

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        7. coreybowers‏ @coreybowers Nov 5
          Replying to @IronEconomist

          Again, I think hitting defenseless people is wrong

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        8. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
          Replying to @coreybowers

          Are you also against depriving defenceless people of their freedom? What about depriving defenceless people of their material possessions?

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        9. Iron Economist‏ @IronEconomist Nov 5
          Replying to @IronEconomist @coreybowers

          What about yelling at defensless people? So far we have ruled out the naughty corner, grounding, confiscating toys, and shouting.

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