Well, that then might be a good time indeed, as @skdh argues, to step back and think what it is they are trying to do. I don't know any examples of someone setting out (literally) to discover the "fundamental laws of the universe" and succeeding.
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are you purposing that science is the endeavor of pursuing what's already successfully been done? you could have said to Newton 'i don't recall any stories of anyone successfully figuring out how the moon goes goes round the earth' that's not a very good argument..
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"How the Moon goes round the Earth" is a reasinably well defined problem.
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so are 'why do hadrons form?' , 'what is dark matter?' .. If you want a success story about discovering a new fundamental law look at the SM gauge group
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Replying to @InertialObservr @ValFadeev and
to say all particle physicists do is 'discover the fundamental laws' is just building a straw man to blow it down .. do you really think that every paper we write is just some muse on a philosophical abstraction?
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I am not dismissing anything here. There is this statement that the subject might be at a standstill. I am trying, like the others, to think why that could happen. All I am saying is that, drawing on history, it's problem solving that seems to win over "healthy speculation".
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you literally could have said all of this about the Higgs mechanism and the standard model ..
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Replying to @InertialObservr @ValFadeev and
It should be called the Anderson-Higgs mechanism. Yeah, CM can be "fundamental" too.
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Replying to @justakidfromlbc @ValFadeev and
actually it's the Englert–Brout–Higgs–Guralnik–Hagen–Kibble mechanism .. i don't know why everyone is being so obtuse about what i have clearly stated 'fundamental' means
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Replying to @InertialObservr @justakidfromlbc and
Maybe they are trying to contest why should one believe its a good name when its so easily confused with "more essential". If your answer is "because we decided its the proper name", then you should at least concede it sounds ridiculous to others.
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Replying to @oxthams @justakidfromlbc and
I don’t care what we call it
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