In nature, increases in the energy of the orbit inevitably describe a precession. Why do people spend time solving problems of n-bodies?
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Replying to @entangled_post @gfredericks_ and
so they can eventually study n+1
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Replying to @InertialObservr @gfredericks_ and
Let me rephrase. If we know that classical mechanics has a predictive incapacity (precession). Why do you think it is a useful tool to study these systems? am i missing something?
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Replying to @entangled_post @InertialObservr and
Are you saying we should use general relativity, because that's needed to understand the precession of Mercury? People who make long-term predictions about the Solar System *do* use general relativity.
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Replying to @johncarlosbaez @InertialObservr and
Mercury is not the only object in the solar system that exhibits an anomalous precession. All the bodies of our solar system are describing different magnitudes of precession. That's why we use Schwarzschild's metric. Newtonian motion equation gives you "unreal" constant energy.pic.twitter.com/xyaSxv8XhF
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Replying to @entangled_post @johncarlosbaez and
2/2 The sum of these is the constant energy E of the orbit (which is negative for bound orbits). Thus, noting that v2 = (dr/dt)2 + (ωr)2, where ω = dϕ/dt is the angular velocity of the particle, we have the Newtonian equation of motion
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Replying to @entangled_post @InertialObservr and
People who do long-term simulations of the Solar System use general relativistic corrections for all planets, not just Mercury: https://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/9403057 … They say these corrections add just 5% to the computation time.
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Replying to @johncarlosbaez @InertialObservr and
That's what I have been trying to explain.
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Replying to @entangled_post @InertialObservr and
Okay. I know this stuff, so maybe you're talking to someone else.
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Replying to @johncarlosbaez @InertialObservr and
For sure, i was referring to the comment of
@InertialObservr Quote: "classical mechanics predicts precession".1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
i deleted it cause i didn't know you were talking about the precession of mercury. thought you mean't precession in general, which is predicted in CM
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Replying to @InertialObservr @entangled_post and
Planetary precession has components due to the quadrupole moment of the Sun, the influence of Jupiter and GR. Classical mechanics is able to predict the first two.
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Replying to @arek_fu @InertialObservr and
It's fun to read about all the small corrections that people make when doing long-term simulations of the Solar System.
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