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    1. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Jan 11
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      John Carlos Baez Retweeted Simon Tardivel

      A beautiful solution of the gravitational 4-body problem. But keep watching, because it's not stable!https://twitter.com/simon_tardivel/status/1215728659010670594 …

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      Simon Tardivel @simon_tardivel
      Par exemple, prenons une jolie configuration à... 4 corps désormais ! Regardez les premiers tours, c'est joli hein... Ouais continuez à regarder... #SpoilerAlert CA VA MAL FINIR ! pic.twitter.com/rxQeBkJ2kr
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    2. Josh Foster‏ @JoshuaDFoster1 Jan 11
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      Replying to @johncarlosbaez @InertialObservr

      I don't understand why it's unstable. I'm the farthest thing from a physicist, so I'm sure I'm missing something obviously, but it seems to me like it should be stable. Is something influencing their movement besides each other?

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    3. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Jan 11
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      Replying to @JoshuaDFoster1 @InertialObservr

      Lots of systems are unstable, and then they can *look* like they're doing something simple, but in reality they're not quite, and the deviation from simple behavior gradually builds up over time and suddenly spirals out of control. Just solve the equations...

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    4. Gary Fredericks‏ @gfredericks_ Jan 11
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      Replying to @johncarlosbaez @JoshuaDFoster1 @InertialObservr

      this one is static under perfect conditions, right? perfect symmetry, no perturbations, etc.? the fact that it starts out symmetric at least tells me it can't end the way it does in the animation

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      〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr Jan 11
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      Replying to @gfredericks_ @johncarlosbaez @JoshuaDFoster1

      That’s the thing it’s *not* perfectly symmetric, it just looks that way to our monkey brains. There is a ever so slight difference in initial conditions that breaks the symmetry

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        2. .sanᴛɪ  📎‏ @entangled_post Jan 11
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          Replying to @InertialObservr @gfredericks_ and

          In nature, increases in the energy of the orbit inevitably describe a precession. Why do people spend time solving problems of n-bodies?

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        3. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr Jan 11
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          Replying to @entangled_post @gfredericks_ and

          so they can eventually study n+1

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        2. Chris Robbins‏ @Grallator Jan 13
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          Replying to @InertialObservr @gfredericks_ and

          It may be symmetric, but if solved with a numerical scheme there will be truncation and representation errors plus the scheme will have finite order accuracy. These will introduce small perturbations which will be amplified in a mathematically unstable system.

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        3. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr Jan 13
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          Replying to @Grallator @gfredericks_ and

          Yes but I’m assuming OP accounted for that

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        2. Gary Fredericks‏ @gfredericks_ Jan 11
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          Replying to @InertialObservr @johncarlosbaez @JoshuaDFoster1

          but isn't there a symmetric setup that looks very similar? if so, that's what I'm asking about

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        3. John Carlos Baez‏ @johncarlosbaez Jan 11
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          Replying to @gfredericks_ @InertialObservr @JoshuaDFoster1

          Yes, I bet there's a perfectly symmetrical solution of the 4-body problem that looks a lot like this one but stays symmetrical forever. People study highly symmetrical solutions of the n-body problem by proving theorems. Cris Moore found a bunch: http://tuvalu.santafe.edu/~moore/gallery.html …pic.twitter.com/33Sk7bxYqS

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