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Replying to @InertialObservr
The concept of "number" is pretty flexible. Humans started with whole numbers, then included fractions, then irrational numbers, then zero, then negative numbers, then imaginary and complex numbers. The "extended reals" include +infinity and -infinity: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extended_real_number_line …
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Replying to @johncarlosbaez
I'm a big fan of the extended reals. Perhaps i should have said "naive manipulations treated as a number are invalid", but that didn't have the same zing to it
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Replying to @InertialObservr @johncarlosbaez
Even that is questionable. If you want 1/infinity = 0 then you have problems, but if you think of it as infinitesimally small but non-zero, then you can generate an ordered field that extends R. In that field you're treating infinity as a number and using naive manipulations.
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Replying to @wtgowers @johncarlosbaez
Interesting, and a good point. I haven’t internalized the hyperreals fully (which is what I think you’re referring to). They’ve always been of recreational interest to me, but I never gained an intuition of the notion of “standard part” or nilpotent differentials.
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Replying to @InertialObservr @johncarlosbaez
I was actually talking about something more elementary than the hyperreals: you just take rational functions evaluated at infinity, which form an ordered field (but not a complete one, obviously) in a natural way.
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that’s true.. I’m going to have to think about that in the morning!
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