Are elementary particles real (per any variant of scientific realism)?
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Replying to @litgenstein
I don't see how this questions has anything to do with particle physics. You could ask the exact same question regarding ontology by saying "we say an X physically exists"
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Replying to @InertialObservr
Yeah the realism debate extends over every science, but a lot of people think that physics is the best candidate for defending realism (given how mature and robust it is)
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Replying to @litgenstein
All we can say is that we observe different properties. We call a perceived coherent collection of those properties an object or "thing". I think it's hard to imagine that properties exist "naked" without an object of which they're properties.
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Replying to @InertialObservr
A lot of the trouble with particles (and similar objects) in particular comes with how indirect our measurements are, and how far divorced the physical quantities are from experience (as well as the mathematical artifacts/baggage). I’m personally fond of fields like QFT and...
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Replying to @litgenstein @InertialObservr
the like given renormalization. That we’re able to track universality and characterize unknown higher energy contributions (with the flow/couplings) is such a unique result, and a few people are developing variants of realism specific to such theories.
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Replying to @litgenstein @InertialObservr
But a lot of the conversation can be modified to the ‘what will survive theory change?’ question, which is another reason why physics is attractive and possibly unique. People like ‘structure’ because we clearly recover the structure of past theories in their appropriate limits.
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Replying to @litgenstein
Yea, I agree though I'm not sure if I'm a structural realist though I haven't thought about it deeply enough yet I'll admit.
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Replying to @InertialObservr
I’m personally partial to: http://philsci-archive.pitt.edu/12889/ and a lot of the stuff David Wallace has written, but it’s definitely a pretty decent divergence from the sort of work you’re used to lol
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yea, i mean i honestly think that developing a physical theory that is (1) non-perturbative (2) conceptually tractable is super important work, though i suppose that's more in your line of work than mine.
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