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〈 Berger | Dillon 〉
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    1. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 21 Apr 2019
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      Giulio Fagnano's trick Pretty clever..pic.twitter.com/7JpmjKqvkK

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    2. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 21 Apr 2019
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      Isn't it more straightforward to derive the same through atan's derivative? atan(x) = ∫ˣ₀ 1/(1+t²) dt

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    3. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 21 Apr 2019
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      Oh how great our vision is in hindsight! In a way, yes.. If you’re clever enough to come up with trig sub before it was invented.. or you knew the derivative or arctan(x) The beauty of this trick is that it doesn’t require anything except knowledge of derivatives

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    4. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 22 Apr 2019
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      Well, the derivative of arctan is easy to come up with if you know tan's derivative and start with the identity f⁻¹(f(x)) = x The problem I have with your trick is that 1/cos²(t) appeared out of nowhere, I don't see what it teaches us and how to apply it elsewhere

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    5. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 22 Apr 2019
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      To find the derivative of arctan you need inverse function theorem, or at the very least to prove the chain rule

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    6. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 22 Apr 2019
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      Sure, but the (proposed) alternative is all of integral calculus

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    7. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 22 Apr 2019
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      How so? No integration is done

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    8. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 22 Apr 2019
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      But what does this stretched out S even mean then? What is t and dt, and how come it suddenly got replaced by x and dx? Besides, that's not true, you integrated 1 in the very first line.

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    9. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 22 Apr 2019
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      It just means “that function whose derivative is f(x)” it’s just notation

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    10. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 22 Apr 2019
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      Won't the change of variables require chain rule then?

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      〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @art_sobolev

      No just dx/dt = sec^2(t)

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        2. Artëm Sobolev‏ @art_sobolev 22 Apr 2019
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          Yep, and x = tan(t) with its derivative is half of the chain rule needed for the inverse theorem. Justification of this is the second half. Once you switched to the "no integrals here, just derivatives" interpretation, you started deriving the inverse theorem in disguise.

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        3. 〈 Berger | Dillon 〉‏ @InertialObservr 22 Apr 2019
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          You don’t need chain rule for the derivative of tan. Quotient rule does the trick

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