〈 Berger | Dillon 〉

But because of both quantum and chaos theory there is a physical limit to how much information even exists...so always some room for inderermenancy

Right, but what reason do we have to believe something of such a small scale has a non negligible interaction at human-brain energy scales? There's just as much room for little gnomes controlling your every move as there are for the freedom to choose x over y

hahah yes you would, but not at scales with E~< h

Free will imo, is an effective theory since predicting human behavior is impractical using the physical laws of nature. Suggests, we can’t predict things like love or faith, it just happens. It’s like someone wakes up, “today, my calculations show that I’m going to fall in love”

The truth of a statement has nothing to do with utility, so whether or not it’s impractical to use determinism in the areas you mentioned still doesn’t invalidate determinism.

Determinism didn’t die with quantum physics, but it’s certainly up in the air until we work out the connection between it and relativity. We’re talking about philosophy here.