The premise of the criticisms I take issue with is that “new physics” can only mean “new particles,” and can only be discovered by bigger linear accelerators. The certainty with which Sabine’s critics believe that there is only one way forward in physics is the problem.
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Replying to @VivaMachina @skdh
But saying theoretical physicists have made a terrible life choice is not only wrong, but it’s philosophically naive, as if QM, EM, and GR etc weren’t once “pure theory”. We follow our nose, and it’s the best we can do..
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Replying to @InertialObservr @skdh
If you look at my whole rant, I mention quantum information, condensed matter, and non-eq thermo just off the top of my head as things that physicists in “our generation” (I’m 36) might have found more interesting/fruitful than searching for beyond SM-physics via new particles
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Replying to @VivaMachina @skdh
The problem is that those are investigating different things.. none of those (except for QIS) are “fundamental” Physics .. they’re neat, sure but they don’t tell us anything deep
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Replying to @InertialObservr @skdh
See that’s where you’re back at the assumption that “fundamental” only has one meaning and that it’s impossible for anything to be “deep” unless it’s a new excitation.
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Replying to @VivaMachina @skdh
The ingredients are more fundamental than the cake.. the cake tastes good, but it’s not a fundamental quanta of cake..
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Replying to @InertialObservr @skdh
If you want to get philosophical the building-block view could be the unquestioned premise that is preventing the Kuhnians from getting excited. If we know all the ingredients already then quantum gravity likely involves a problem with our assumptions about what is fundamental
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I’m saying that part of the reason that people scream at the suggestion that a bigger collider is not a good idea right now is that they have made up their minds in advance about what fundamental physics means and what forms “new physics” could take
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Replying to @VivaMachina @skdh
I think it’s pretty clear that new physics can take many forms.. though I think it’s also clear which fields are more or less likely to do so
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Replying to @InertialObservr @skdh
I agree that new physics can take many forms, would you agree that there’s a problem with assumptions in particle physics about what those forms might be? My whole argument is that the vitriol aimed at Sabine stems from assumptions limiting the scope of what new physics can be
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I think it should definitely be an open conversation.. I think if there’s a good argument for x having implications of “fundamental understanding”, one ought to hear it
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Replying to @InertialObservr @skdh
Surely we can all agree with that. I’m leveling a specific criticism though that the anger she incites is precisely due to the fact that there is a sector of the community that has already made up their minds about what is fundamental and how to find it
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And particle physicists are screaming at her because they think she is trying to prevent the *only way to advance fundamental knowledge.* But a new collider won’t reach energies where there’s good reasons to expect anything new
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