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    𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠‏Verified account @IanCutress 11 Jun 2019

    So for clarity: Rome large IO die = GF 14nm Matisse small IO die = GF 12nm X570 Chipset = Matisse IO die on GF 14nm That's right. The X570 chipset is the same floorplan as the Matisse IO die, but with diff chicken bits enabled/disabled. AMD has good reuse of chips

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      2. 𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠‏Verified account @IanCutress 11 Jun 2019

        Now imagine using that memory controller enable a DRAM cache for the chipset IO. 😁🤞

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      2. loon iam‏ @loon_iam 11 Jun 2019
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        thanks for confirming what @Gordonung mumbled in a sleep deprived state during the live stream.

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      3. 𝐷𝑟. 𝐼𝑎𝑛 𝐶𝑢𝑡𝑟𝑒𝑠𝑠‏Verified account @IanCutress 11 Jun 2019
        Replying to @loon_iam @Gordonung

        Yeah, we we're all still pretty burned out from Computex. Took a while to get clarity on the differences during our prebriefings

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      2. トウカイテイオー‏ @scineram 11 Jun 2019

        If they were the same silicon on the same process they would get economy of scale. But this way they only spare the design costs, which is why I find this setup baffling.

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      1. Levani  🇬🇪‏ @Viiceey 11 Jun 2019
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        Wonder if X570 chipset was built also using 7nm tsmc would it still require fan for cooling, though it would increase already high price of X570 mobos. May be next year, when 7nm is even more mature and cheaper to produce, they will do it for X670/Zen3

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      2. ErosG‏ @EErosx 11 Jun 2019
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        Why wouldn't they just make the OI bigger and forget about the chipsets completely? maybe for zen 3?

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      3. Lukas‏ @TheDijky 11 Jun 2019
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        I guess at this point it's a matter of socket pin/wire count and locality. You want all those SATA and PCI-E wires away from the socket area that is already congested with RAM, PCI-E, and power delivery.

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      1. Ed Chick‏ @eddychik 11 Jun 2019
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        Will the IO Chip moves to GF’s FD-SOI in the future? Or are they simply sticking to GF 14/12nm ?

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