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    Ian Cutress‏Verified account @IanCutress Oct 30

    Using GB4 to compare A12X and Intel is like comparing a sports car and a speedboat. Same start and end point, but very different paths and different optimisations at hand.

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      2. CatrionaMDW‏ @CatrionaMDW Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        Any idea what processor Apple is using in the MacBook Air? It sorta matches the 8200Y, but it has UHD 617 graphics and a 1.6GHz base speed. Custom processor?

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      3. Ian Cutress‏Verified account @IanCutress Oct 30
        Replying to @CatrionaMDW

        A tweaked speed bin. We're waiting on an email with full confirmation

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      2. Dennis S.‏ @der_rod Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        What's a GB4 in this case? Didn't see that part of the event.

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      3. Ian Cutress‏Verified account @IanCutress Oct 30
        Replying to @der_rod

        Geekbench 4. Has an iOS and Windows version of the benchmark. Used in a lot of cross platform comparisons

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      4. Dennis S.‏ @der_rod Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        Ohh, for some reason I didn't make the connection that GB = Geekbench

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      2. Cheshire Merc Cat‏ @Cat_Merc Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        I'd like to see you do a write up on this, have it as an article.

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      3. Andrew Jackson‏ @AndrewJacksonZA Oct 30
        Replying to @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        +1. However, I think a good test would be to do something like: I want to do "x" (turn a photo 180 deg, search a multi-gigabyte string array [sorted & unsorted] for a value, perform complex aggregation on a multi-GB 2D array [basically approximating a database table without /2

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      4. Andrew Jackson‏ @AndrewJacksonZA Oct 30
        Replying to @AndrewJacksonZA @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        1\ introducing 3rd party database implementations into the mix, or maybe just search a B-tree]) so let's create some C/C++ programs to do it, and then compare the programs (using different compilers, of course, because they each have their own little niggles) PLUS our /3

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      5. Andrew Jackson‏ @AndrewJacksonZA Oct 30
        Replying to @AndrewJacksonZA @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        2\ hand-tuned assembly programs to do a proper comparison. Dude, that's a metric ton of work if one wants to do it properly, because one needs in-depth knowledge of each hardware platform (Intel, AMD, and ARM) & operating system/software ecosystem PLUS years of experience /4

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      6. Andrew Jackson‏ @AndrewJacksonZA Oct 30
        Replying to @AndrewJacksonZA @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        3\ doing it. <<<EOF>>>

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      7. Pure_Awesome‏ @peterson_chr_ Nov 2
        Replying to @AndrewJacksonZA @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        1/\I'm still against cross comparing chips w/ different archs because they'll never run the same binary. How else would you go about creating the same exact conditions on ARM & INTEL chips that will put the different-archs argument to rest? HOW?!

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      8. Pure_Awesome‏ @peterson_chr_ Nov 2
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        2/\ let's just stick to comparing Intel with AMD, NVIDIA with Radeon, and ARM chips with other ARM chips... Because if we start cross comparing, we're gonna lie to ourselves about the true performance of the processors...

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      9. Andrew Jackson‏ @AndrewJacksonZA Nov 2
        Replying to @peterson_chr_ @Cat_Merc @IanCutress

        Nope. Not if one sets a uarch-independant goal of a task that needs to be accomplished, like I said in my tweets, and then codes the same algorithm to do it.

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      1. HS‏ @revertice Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        using GB to compare anything is pure idiocy. It is an inconsisten benchmark that is designed to be "pay to win".

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      1. Kevin Mulhall‏ @KevinMulhall Oct 31
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        SPECcpu2017

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      1. Gok‏ @Gok Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        You mean GB in particular? or do you include SPEC, etc?

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      2. dylan522p‏ @dylan522p Oct 30
        Replying to @IanCutress

        The best explanation of this is a 4 year old post on RWT.... Surely you could throw something together that is better and more up to date with its critique!

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      3. Michał Ostrowski‏ @ufoman557 Oct 30
        Replying to @dylan522p @IanCutress

        Yup, that would be great :)

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