How about live and let live:)
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Replying to @ChiefScientist
I don’t think that’s fair to all of the companies and people Microsoft damaged. They certainly didn’t have that philosophy.
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Replying to @rickasaurus @ChiefScientist
Who's "they" and who's "Microsoft"?
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Replying to @_cartermp @ChiefScientist
In this case yes Microsoft did not have that philosophy and there are still many hard feelings in the community
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If I were in charge of open source at Microsoft I would address this problem directly, engaging the community with how they can fix the problem.
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Replying to @rickasaurus @ChiefScientist
There's nobody in charge of open source at Microsoft, nor would it make sense for such a thing to exist. Just teams doing stuff. What problem is there to be fixed exactly? It's unclear to me beyond some murky history with ill-defined actions and often differing accounts of stuff
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Replying to @_cartermp @ChiefScientist
I think a good community engagement manager directed at open source could make this plain as day to you. Microsoft open source is still largely seen as a farce. It’s open release software.
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Do you have examples of OSS projects Microsoft has participated in that haven't been true to principles of open source as you see them? Asking because my experience from the inside (at least with Azure SDKs, .NET, and F#) has been the opposite.
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Replying to @bitsforthought @rickasaurus and
Don't want to turn this into a rant, but I think the most pointed problem is in the governance: how many non MS members are part of the board deciding on the core .NET projects direction? How often MS is picking up dependency on a successful project, it doesn't have control over?
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Replying to @Horusiath @bitsforthought and
Have you seen everything that we've done with CNCF and
@kubernetesio? Microsoft people on the kubernetes steering committee. LIkewise on the CNCF technical oversight committee. Likewise on the CNCF governing board. On the Linux Foundation board. etc etc.2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
I didn't know that k8s and linux foundation are part of the .NET ecosystem ;)
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Replying to @Horusiath @brendandburns and
To clarify: I'm not writing about MS contributions on "international" arena, where MS *must* contribute to stay relevant among other players. I'm talking about .NET and governance over areas where MS is a dominant power.
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Replying to @Horusiath @brendandburns and
Am in agreement with you. The dot net foundation is diversifying at the moment. Let's see what it come of that. However, am still of a cynical position right now.
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