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    Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3

    I don't care if you think @stardock or CEO Brad Wardell (@draginol) is the devil, the entire industry should be *petrified* that the following was the basis for a DMCA takedown of a live game. (The filers @Dogar_And_Kazon claim rights in SC2 that were "infringed" by Origins.)pic.twitter.com/RaptHmGTOH

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      2. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3

        For more: Please check out my #VirtualLegality episode on the topic -https://youtu.be/gVJIgLnDbcQ 

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      3. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3

        @Dogar_And_Kazon's own post on the subject:https://www.dogarandkazon.com/blog/2019/1/2/injunction-junction-court-instruction …

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      4. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3

        The write-up by @gamedailybiz and @JohnnyCullen (with commentary from @HoegLaw):https://gamedaily.biz/article/478/star-control-origins-yanked-from-storefronts-in-latest-chapter-of-legal-battle …

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      5. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3

        A useful exercise: Take "Star Control" out of it. If the game Stardock released was just called Origins, would you view the listed qualities as "infringing"? How about Fortnite and PUBG? Assassin's Creed Odyssey and Witcher/Dragon Age/Diablo/Mafia 3? HotS and LoL?

        4 replies . 10 retweets 35 likes
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      2. raudskeggr‏ @raudskeggr Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @Stardock and

        It seems fairly compelling to me.

        3 replies . 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3
        Replying to @raudskeggr @Stardock and

        I think if you really wanted to give R+F the benefit of the doubt and presume bad faith you could maybe squint and call Origins a clone of SC2. But it would be a clone with new ideas and twists of its own and cloning (without copying code or assets) is not (generally) infringing.

        3 replies . 2 retweets 8 likes
      4. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @raudskeggr and

        There is no question the story beats (the real meat of a Star Control) are nothing alike.

        2 replies . 3 retweets 14 likes
      5. Scott McEvoy‏ @gonzotgreat23 Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @draginol and

        Yes, but Stardock dared use the letters S and C in their game, and therefore must be punished and slathered in shame.

        0 replies . 1 retweet 5 likes
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      2. Brad Wardell‏ @draginol Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @Stardock @Dogar_And_Kazon

        As an attorney, how often are you presented with such a blatant smoking gun?

        1 reply . 1 retweet 2 likes
      3. Richard Hoeg‏ @HoegLaw Jan 3
        Replying to @draginol @Stardock @Dogar_And_Kazon

        More than you might think. ;) Not usually in public though.

        0 replies . 1 retweet 8 likes
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      2. pepi‏ @pepsi_popsi Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @draginol and

        isn't hyperspace also a thing they call it in star wars? what a silly thing to claim is copyright infringement

        2 replies . 1 retweet 10 likes
      3. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Jan 3
        Replying to @pepsi_popsi @HoegLaw and

        It's not the name It's not the appearance It's not the mechanics It's not the lore It's the name AND the appearance AND the mechanics AND the lore

        2 replies . 4 retweets 36 likes
      4. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Jan 3
        Replying to @arthur_affect @pepsi_popsi and

        Yes, sure, no tiny individual piece of something is copyrightable Copyright applies to the specific combination of individual elements to form a creative work

        2 replies . 4 retweets 32 likes
      5. Navy DM @PaxUnplugged‏ @Navy_DM Jan 3
        Replying to @arthur_affect @pepsi_popsi and

        The name was unequivocally purchased, so thats pretty much out the window

        3 replies . 0 retweets 0 likes
      6. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Jan 3
        Replying to @Navy_DM @pepsi_popsi and

        Are you saying they bought the trademark to the word "Hyperspace", or that "Hyperspace" was a trademark used to market the Star Control brand and identify it to consumers

        2 replies . 1 retweet 14 likes
      7. Navy DM @PaxUnplugged‏ @Navy_DM Jan 3
        Replying to @arthur_affect @pepsi_popsi and

        They bought the trademark and name of StarControl

        2 replies . 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Arthur Chu‏Verified account @arthur_affect Jan 3
        Replying to @Navy_DM @pepsi_popsi and

        Which has nothing to do with the use of Star Control's idea of Hyperspace

        1 reply . 1 retweet 9 likes
      9. Navy DM @PaxUnplugged‏ @Navy_DM Jan 3
        Replying to @arthur_affect @pepsi_popsi and

        Which is apropos of nothing given how generic hyperspace is in all forms of SciFi for decades.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
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      2. ShyQueen Now‏ @Katpyre Jan 3
        Replying to @HoegLaw @Stardock and

        NONE of this can be copyrighted??? "Your game looks simialr to ours and uses words (that are often used in a multitude of other media) and mechanics are similar so it's not okay" It's like suing No Mans Sky for the same thing

        1 reply . 0 retweets 4 likes
      3. ShyQueen Now‏ @Katpyre Jan 3
        Replying to @Katpyre @HoegLaw and

        Like yeah the simialrties ARE too close tbh but nothing that can eb grounds for DMCA, most they could do is claim the game is copying theirs not violating copyright.

        1 reply . 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. Brad Wardell‏ @draginol Jan 3
        Replying to @Katpyre @HoegLaw and

        Have you played the game? If you had, you would find that even their ridiculous comparisons are a huge stretch.

        2 replies . 1 retweet 3 likes
      5. Brad Wardell‏ @draginol Jan 3
        Replying to @draginol @Katpyre and

        Let me give you an example. Both games have resource collection right? But here is what they look like:pic.twitter.com/Hn5qgO4c5h

        1 reply . 1 retweet 3 likes
      6. Brad Wardell‏ @draginol Jan 3
        Replying to @draginol @Katpyre and

        Or take Hyperspace travel. One shows actual solar systems, ships flying withing the star systems, etc. How many different ways can you possibly portray ships traveling across the galaxy? The UI isn't even similar.pic.twitter.com/IJRxDj4GGP

        0 replies . 1 retweet 3 likes
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