This has to be Virtu Financial for me. Their volatile results & lack of public comps make them hard to value, but huge retail demand has boosted their wholesale biz & they're expanding into new markets like options. We could see $5 EPS and a $40 stock this year. cc @Dougielarge
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @MarcRuby and
Followed! Does this business have blow-up risk? If I remember correctly, they bought Knight Capital's market maker business which blew up in 2012?
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Replying to @NeckarValue @MarcRuby and
There is indeed blow-up risk, but I put the odds of an extreme event like that happening again at very low. Part of the DD process for companies like this is asking the question "how well do I trust management to prioritize operational excellence given the potential risks?"
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @NeckarValue and
Some background info on the KCG glitch & operational risks of exchanges below:pic.twitter.com/mQ4KEbep9V
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @NeckarValue and
Virtu bought KCG in 2017, a few years after the trading glitch. The strategy behind the deal was to expand their presence in ETF market making, which was (rightly) seen as a growth space worth investing in.
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @MarcRuby and
Interesting. Looking forward to your
$VIRT write-up..
So which of the companies is your long-term favorite and why?1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes -
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Bringing it back full circle, today my largest exchange holding is
$ICE. I think the market is undervaluing their massive energy business and I like the Ellie Mae deal provided they can continue to execute. Valuation is not too excessive either at 25x this years earnings.1 reply 2 retweets 5 likes -
Replying to @HideNotSlide @MarcRuby and
Can any of these companies serve as a volatility hedge? I thought it would be
$CBOE but the "home of the VIX" is still below its 2020 high. What's going on there?1 reply 0 retweets 1 like -
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CBOE's volatility products make it a unique exchange. In a way, CBOE is counter-counter-cyclical - VIX futures & SPX options see more interest when volatility is LOW, not high. 2020 vol ended up doing more damage than good for them, but this year things are starting to recover.
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @NeckarValue and
I used to own CBOE but sold after revisiting their investments in Europe. They're spending a lot of money to try and disrupt pan-European derivatives, a historically fragmented & entrenched field. I'm not willing to wait around & find out if their investments will pay off.
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European market structure is hard to disrupt because there are multiple clearinghouses for the same underlying product, whereas in the US there's only one. The below chart shows just how dispersed the plumbing is - good luck to CBOE for cleaning this up!pic.twitter.com/tSWxBF1grI
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Replying to @HideNotSlide @MarcRuby and
Fragmented, huh?pic.twitter.com/RRxk53t8Hn
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Replying to @NeckarValue @HideNotSlide and
What is the risk of exchanges getting disrupted either by technology or new competitors? Are there any startups whose IPO you're anticipating?
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