Number one correlation is trading volumes, which could stay higher for a while with zero commissions, work from home, more online on-ramps, etc. But VIX is still a big number two correlation as it impacts spreads, both per book and between related products.
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Replying to @SMKnudsen @HideNotSlide
one would have expected a largish increase when vix was 80 and remained around 30 for months, but it never happened. i don’t think there’s a meaningful correlation, especially due to how thin equities spreads are
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Replying to @theemilyaccount @HideNotSlide
Not even sure what the breakdown within the “US equities” bucket is, in terms of straight up stock trading vs index arb and other strategies. When I was a MM, spreads always blew up with volatility. Even if talking about capturing 20 mills vs say 10 on average.
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$VIRT is the common equity of a real business & it shouldn't be traded against market metrics as if it is a synthetic vol proxy. find me another public MM... soon you probably won't be able to find any2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes -
Here is Virtu vs Flow Traders over past year. Appear reasonably correlated over this time period.pic.twitter.com/Pq322mAxr1
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did not even know flowtraders was public which is pretty embarrassing but thanks for sharing. most of my virt thesis is valuation driven so i look foward to taking a look at flowtraders... will report back
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$VIRT is admittedly very hard to value. Clearly they benefit from high vol environment but also not exactly a vol proxy. Flow is bigger in Europe and historically very big in ETFs. But even over past few years they move together reasonably well.pic.twitter.com/6o2A4hOlbN
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true. i will also note that neither firm are big in options MMing (correct me if im wrong) & both have stated they'd like to/have plans to ramp up a biz in the space. so there's that tailwind at the least
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Correct, neither has much of a presence to speak of. Very tough and expensive business to crack into.
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here's what I was able to put together
$VIRT$FLTDF vs.$CBOE$NDAQ$ICE$CME$TW$MKTX in short, i seem to like FT just as much as VIRT (though i'm not as familiar with their mgmt). yellow highlights are metrics i find interesting if u wanna see more names/metrics LMKpic.twitter.com/8HvVh9gvbt
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Thanks for putting this together!
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mi compstable su compstable, let me know how to improve it. can also shoot you over a copy if you have a bloomberg (can hardcode if not)
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