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    1. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      I pulled the trigger this morning and sold my $CBOE position to buy Tradeweb $TW. An explanation of my decisions below:

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    2. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      First a level-set on what both companies do. CBOE is an exchange focused on Options & volatility futures in the US and Europe. Tradeweb is a fixed income trading platform with expertise in Treasuries, mortgages, swaps, and corporate bonds.pic.twitter.com/4UP58eAae1

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    3. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

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      I had purchased CBOE in mid-2020 at ~$85 on the thesis that VIX & Index Options activity would recover as vol normalized, with Europe derivatives success as longer-term upside. It was a value/macro play more than a bet on management or CBOE's strategy.https://twitter.com/HideNotSlide/status/1290318920038129664?s=20 …

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      Breaking News - I’ve started to nibble at CBOE 🤫 I’ve been notably bearish on the name for the last ~4 months – I’ll lay out the reason for my pivot from bear to cautious bull below.
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    4. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      CBOE's recent earnings disappointed me. While Index Options & futures are slowly recovering, its equities business is suffering from pricing & market share pressure from off-exchange trading & startups like MEMX. Higher volumes don't matter if they don't translate to earnings.

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    5. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      Additionally, expenses are expected to jump +30% in 2021 as recent M&A doesn't come with synergies & their European derivatives buildout requires more investment. That expense jump is quite a lot to stomach, and ROI on this spend isn't clear to me. https://frontmonth.substack.com/p/cboe-q4-2020-earnings-review …pic.twitter.com/XSWERZjzez

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    6. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      Why $TW instead? Their biz is booming even in a low rate environment, which Q4 earnings validated. New technologies are directly translating into happy clients & more market share. Treasuries - streams, eSpeed Mortgages - spec pool trading Corporate bonds - portfolio tradingpic.twitter.com/q0E3Oz7lBP

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    7. Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8

      I'm willing to pay a premium for a higher quality business with investments that are paying off *today*, rather than a discount for a promise that investments *may* payoff in the future with little to back this up right now. Open to questons/feedback/criticism if any!

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    8. GS‏ @GSEconomics Feb 8
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      Can you see the CBOE European derivatives business working out? I can't see how they are going to build any volumes with the CBOE UK 100 or CBOE Eurozone 50 indexes... https://www.cboe.com/europe/derivatives/overview/ …

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      Hide Not Slide‏ @HideNotSlide Feb 8
      Replying to @GSEconomics

      I agree. A rising tide might lift all boats, but I don't see it happening for a long time with Brexit & potential new regulations muddying the waters. CBOE may have a unique angle to grow in Europe but i'm not willing to stick around to find out

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