at one end you've got The Dark Knight, which is a good movie but barely depicts women as human. at the other end you've got Zack Snyder, whose DC films are ugly macho nonsense, but have a legion of stans who take them VERY seriously because they're ~dark.
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the Joker is (IMO) not well-suited to being a protagonist, but he's a predictable choice for DC's first ~prestige drama~ adaptation, because he can slot neatly into a Scorsese movie clone about a white male outcast.
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a Scorsese clone about a white male outcast is the perfect overlap between making a film that will be Taken Seriously, and following the conservative masculine framework for a Batman spinoff.
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like, you don't see Warner Bros. doing a mid-budget nostalgic Lois Lane movie in the style of Nora Ephron.
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the Batman franchise is currently trapped in a cycle of Trying To Be Taken Seriously by being dark & macho, something that just isn't a concern for Marvel.
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it's wild that recent Batman movies are SO obsessed with Bruce Wayne's inner pain that they won't even let him be a father/mentor, A KEY ELEMENT OF HIS CHARACTER.
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at this point, it's actively boring to portray Batman as a violent loner. much more interesting to explore his role as a mentor to Tim, Dick, Barbara, etc. love & humor don't preclude serious themes, or prevent you from examining Bruce Wayne's trauma.
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my ideal Batman movie would portray Bruce Wayne as a hyper-competent obsessive whose life was shaped by trauma, BUT he's also parenting like 5 squabbling teenagers who bring him out of his shell. and in public he acts like this:https://twitter.com/Hello_Tailor/status/1108156611242151937 …
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in summary, Gritty Macho Batman is a plague on all our houses.https://twitter.com/NickPinkerton/status/690347619302928384 …
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Some thoughts on toxic masculinity in the Batman franchise, and why the new Joker movie is perfectly targeted at a certain kind of DC fan. https://www.dailydot.com/parsec/joker-movie-batman-toxic-masculinity/ …pic.twitter.com/NEy8nPvSOP
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(I considered including a caveat that I do actually agree that The Godfather, Fight Club etc are all good movies, but I decided that would be needlessly defensive.)
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