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    1. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      Greetings, workers of the world! Today's @bopinion post is about Karl Marx...what he got right, and, more importantly, what he got wrong.https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-05-08/remember-marx-for-how-much-he-got-wrong …

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    2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      The world must never forget the atrocities that were done in Marx's name, or the economic disasters that befell every communist country in the 20th century. Why did these things happen??pic.twitter.com/Yz4fPVc3Ss

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    3. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      We can at least try to look for the key to Marxism's 20th-century failure in the writings of Marx. I especially like this breakdown by Brad DeLong:http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2013/05/understanding-karl-marx-hoisted-from-the-archives-from-four-years-ago-may-day-weblogging.html …

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    4. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      Marx certainly underrated capitalism (and he underrated capital too). Suppression of market activity was certainly a big problem for societies like Mao's China...pic.twitter.com/i0DremqNpS

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    5. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      ...But I don't think that was the biggest problem with Marxism. Countries like the USSR and China invested in a lot of physical capital. And if those leaders had been wise, good leaders, they would have seen the importance of markets and reversed course (as Lenin almost did).pic.twitter.com/fiUBHBZZXA

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    6. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      The big problem, as I see it, was Marx's idea that socialism could only be achieved by violent revolution. This toxic idea ensured that every communist experiment was accompanied by war, social upheaval, destruction of institutions, and the rise of opportunistic megalomaniacs.pic.twitter.com/P0f2yL6edj

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    7. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      ALL of the successful examples of socialism are social democracies - mixed economies, where socialist leaders are ELECTED instead of installed by violence, and where much capitalistic activity remains.pic.twitter.com/aKou37XSsV

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    8. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018

      Successful socialism hasn't followed Marx's blueprint. Instead, it has largely followed the blueprint of a later, mostly forgotten socialist figure: Eduard Bernstein.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduard_Bernstein …

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 May 2018
      Replying to @Noahpinion

      Wait, are you saying Eduard Bernstein wasn't a Marxist? That's a strange argument.

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        2. Noah Smith  🐇 🇺🇦‏Verified account @Noahpinion 8 May 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          Oh, I mean, he called himself a Marxist, but other people called him an apostate, not a real Marxist, etc. Tons and tons of things have been called "Marxism" (including Stalinism), which is why I wanted to focus on Marx himself instead.

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        3. Dumbstache*‏ @Dnlmsstch 8 May 2018
          Replying to @Noahpinion @HeerJeet

          There is a quote by Marx where he is responding to a description of Marxism with if that's Marxism I am not a marxists

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        2. Peace Day! Resist Ants!‏ @CACollingwood 8 May 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet @Noahpinion

          It's been years since I thought of him but didn't he make his bones critiquing Marx?

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        3. Peace Day! Resist Ants!‏ @CACollingwood 8 May 2018
          Replying to @CACollingwood @HeerJeet @Noahpinion

          IOW, I'm not sure the argument is that Bernstein wasn't a Marxist, but if that's the argument I personally don't really see anything that strange about it.

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        2. Rakesh Bhandari‏ @postdiscipline 8 May 2018
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          But I think all--Leninists, Kautskyans, council communists and revisionists--thought his book on Crowell was good. Embarrassed to say I have never read it. https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/bernstein/works/1895/cromwell/ …

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