1. There's been some accusation that critics of @DouthatNYT have been unfair, so I'll try to make a fair critique (or as fair as I'm able). https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/02/opinion/incels-sex-robots-redistribution.html …
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6. But the real problem already starts with first premise: that "Sexual neoliberalism (Hefner modified by feminism) created unfuckable underclass (incels)." Problem here is that incels are more about status than sex.
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7. You only have to read a little incel discourse (I wouldn't recommend more than a little) so see that anger is not that they don't have sex but that they are denied the high status women ("Stacys") they deserve
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8. Incels are not the voice of sexual underclass but rather the voice of aggrieved privilege: men who (as men) think they naturally deserve high status which they've been denied.
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9. Sex work already in societies that also produce incels. Yet on their messageboards, incels often denigrate sex workers rather than see them as a solution. Why? Because incels don't want sex: they want status of having conventionally beautiful girlfriend/wife.
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10. Aside from status of having conventionally beautiful girlfriend/wife, incels also want subservience & esteem. These are not things any society can really give them. Insatiable aggrieved privilege is not something you can negotiate with.
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11. This is of course the main and unanswerable objection.https://twitter.com/BeckyBunzy/status/991839067162730498 …
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12. I'll leave it to experts in therapy & deradicalization to figure out if there is some way to talk them out of their position. More broadly, anti-misogyny eduction might stop some from going down that path.
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It is not “work” if you are forced.
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Douthat is what you get if Rod Dreher gave a shit if anyone thought he was sane.
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