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    1. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @stevenmklein @HeerJeet and

      But it totally has been about our misogynistic culture, and that's totally correct. As I see it, the "maybe there's actually a problem with sexual/romantic dissatisfaction" position is mostly driven by a hunch that non-patriarchal sexual morality is macro-unstable.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    2. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

      If you've already got that hunch, you see incel terrorism as a datapoint in your favor, and see toxic misogynistic entitlement as a complementary rather than a competing explanation.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

      Yeah, but WIll, again here's the tendency to analogize the political to theoretico-scientific practice of some kind. It's not a hunch and a theory, it's a political situation.

      1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
    4. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling 2 May 2018
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson and

      Douthat, not a liberal by his own admission, can seize on this as benefitting his politics, and has, let's be honest about it.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @stevenmklein and

      Sure. But what's so wrong about that? Folks who think that, say, capitalism has bad consequences tend to jump on the right sort of bad things happening as partial confirmation. I can't say "actually, you hack, it's caused by something else," without begging the deeper question.

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    6. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling and

      BTW, I don't think we differ much on the first-order question about the roots of incel terror. We're differing on the meta-debate about whether there's something insidious about people who disagree with our assumptions about the first-order question.

      2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
    7. Steven Klein‏ @stevenmklein 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling and

      Sure, I think that's largely right. I have a much larger issue with Hanson because of how his argument about redistributing sex implicitly relates to his discussion of the harm of ahem "mild rape." Perhaps unfair to read them together, but he just defended both. He and to a

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    8. Steven Klein‏ @stevenmklein 2 May 2018
      Replying to @stevenmklein @willwilkinson and

      a (somewhat) lesser extent Douthat seem completely focused on how all these changes affect men. So it's not just that I have a competing explanation but that I think their explanation fails to account for the perspective of those subject to misogynistic violence

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    9. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @stevenmklein @lionel_trolling and

      I dislike Robin's right-insensitive consequentialist mode of analysis, which amplifies white guy economist blind spots about structural power relations. But he's also among the most intellectually honest, truth-motivated people I've ever met.

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

      I also don't know many people less responsive to shaming and less resistant to intellectual correction. So the thought-crime-shaming reaction, has been frustrating. It's imperative to be clear about why he's asking the wrong question, but the question shouldn't be taboo.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 2 May 2018
      Replying to @willwilkinson @stevenmklein and

      You know who else wasn't responsive to shaming and was resistant to intellectual correction?

      1:45 PM - 2 May 2018
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