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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 2

      Jeet Heer Retweeted ella dawson

      Great thread.https://twitter.com/brosandprose/status/991703605806854144 …

      Jeet Heer added,

      ella dawsonVerified account @brosandprose
      Ross Dothan's NYTimes column about "The Redistribution of Sex" is a great example of why people who are not well-versed in sexuality as a field should not be writing about topics as fraught as incels and their violent demands of more sexual gratification from women.
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      9 replies 124 retweets 254 likes
    2. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
      Replying to @HeerJeet

      No, Jeet, it's a ridiculous thread that completely misses Ross's point through a kind of willful effort at auto-arousal of outrage.

      4 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
    3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
      Replying to @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      so i guess terrorism works, huh, damon?

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    4. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @HeerJeet

      No idea how you think that relates to anything.

      1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
    5. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
      Replying to @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      the object of terrorism is to use violence to advance your political program, right? so, then all of a sudden, weird crackpot ideas about entitlement to sex are in the most important paper in the country. under a certain view, that's a success, correct?

      2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes
    6. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
      Replying to @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker @HeerJeet

      This is what warmongerings racists said to me when, after 9/11, I said that it really is important to understand the basis of the motivating grievance, and to ask whether there's anything to it.

      2 replies 0 retweets 11 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet May 2
      Replying to @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker

      I agree it's important to understand grievances but in this case I don't think lack of sex is the actual grievance. That's a misunderstanding of incel culture which can be cured by spending a little time reading incels.

      9:27 AM - 2 May 2018
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        2. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
          Replying to @HeerJeet @lionel_trolling @DamonLinker

          And you have nailed the next step in the argument! "Radical islamists just hate freedom and want to destroy us. Asking whether the rise of a rancid ideology is in any way connected to underlying structural causes can't possibly help and guts our resolve to shut down the threat."

          4 replies 0 retweets 10 likes
        3. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @willwilkinson @HeerJeet @DamonLinker

          Well, that's not entirely crazy honestly. I mean you have this liberal faith that everything is just a matter of finding a rational administrative solution. That there's a structural cause we can tinker with. Some people are just existential enemies.

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        4. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson and

          I wouldn't foreclose asking the questions, but also don't assume you are gonna get the answer you want.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        5. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson and

          The problem is already starting, "oh, maybe theres some way to deal with their grievances, maybe we can find an administrative solution, more sex workers, robots, etc." Well maybe they are belligerent misogynists and can't accept our society?

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        6. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson @HeerJeet

          I find it amusing that this entire threat is premised on the assumption that Ross is proposing to "solve the incel problem by providing them with sex robots" when that isn't his point at all. As if people have lost the ability to read without jumping to an occasion for outrage.

          3 replies 1 retweet 1 like
        7. John Ganz‏ @lionel_trolling May 2
          Replying to @DamonLinker @willwilkinson @HeerJeet

          He's saying it's going to be an administrative or political question in the future is he not?

          2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
        8. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
          Replying to @lionel_trolling @willwilkinson @HeerJeet

          It's a prediction of sorts in order to think through an issue. But he's not advocating for it.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        9. Will Wilkinson  🌐‏Verified account @willwilkinson May 2
          Replying to @DamonLinker @lionel_trolling @HeerJeet

          He's implicitly advocating for a rollback of the sexual revolution and a return to stronger norms/laws against sex outside of marriage, and easy divorce. I don't like it, but it's a reasonable and totally familiar religious conservative position.

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        2. Damon Linker‏Verified account @DamonLinker May 2
          Replying to @HeerJeet @willwilkinson @lionel_trolling

          The column isn't about "incel culture" and justifying its grievances. If you've read it, you know that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
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