2. I'd like to see @DouthatNYT write a full magazine length piece spelling out what sort of legal regime he'd like to achieve his goal of no abortions without substantially curtailing existing civil rights.
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3. It's true, as Douthat points out, that in the pre-Roe v. Wade world, women who had abortions were almost never punished (as Williamson wants) like murderer. Williamson's position is not at all conservative but genuinely radical.
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4. But the pre-Roe world was very different, had many more levers of paternalist control. And in meantime we've had decades of "abortion=murder" rhetoric. Williamson is the product of that.
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5. I'm not sure Williamson can be dismissed as just outlier (although grant that most serious anti-abortion people wisely avoid talking about draconian punishments). He's the reductio ad absurdum of a common rhetoric.
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6. Also, the historical record is that contemporary regimes that adopt anti-abortion policies do end up extremely punitive. El Salvador is a prime example.
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7. Anyways, I'd like to see
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Am I the only democrat who’s ever seen a sonogram?
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Maybe all attempts at gendered health care control are unethical? I mean y'all are debating under what circumstances does a woman lose her rights and it seems like the correct answer is never.
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Your points are interesting and yet I’d rather he realize that as a man, his views on abortion are largely irrelevant and be publicly silent on the matter forevermore.
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I wish every single man on the planet would awake to that realisation - that your health and mine are really none of their business.
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