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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 19 Mar 2018

    Jeet Heer Retweeted Brendan Nyhan

    This is the right balance to strike. Cambridge Analytica did dubious, possibly illegal stuff. That's big story but doesn't require us to accept idea that it changed outcome of election.https://twitter.com/BrendanNyhan/status/975931219241205766 …

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    Brendan NyhanVerified account @BrendanNyhan
    No one’s saying that CA isn’t shady. They are! Let’s investigate! But we should also call BS on unsupported claims that it won the election for Trump using magic voodoo Facebook persuasion. Both can be true! https://twitter.com/mattyglesias/status/975928857470652416?s=21 …
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      1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 19 Mar 2018

        Going out on a limb: role of big data overstated in last few elections. Obama & Trump won electoral victories largely because of messages they conveyed, not media they used.

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      1. Um Yeah....‏ @msut777 19 Mar 2018
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        The election was won with less than 100k votes spread over multiple states. Your skepticism looks like willful stupidity

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      1. jesper‏ @jandersen 19 Mar 2018
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        But doesn't their shadiness require us to revaluate the people that retained their services?

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      1. plancpills.org abortionfunds.org‏ @gdtrble 19 Mar 2018
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        jesus. WE ARE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT TRUMP. STOP IT.

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      1. Oakland Fan‏ @Oakland_Fan 19 Mar 2018
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        Not sure how you think you have enough info to conclude that it didn’t change the outcome. If Super PACs and ad buys can change the outcome of an election, then why wouldn’t state-sponsored propaganda / mass “information warfare” (the term used in Mueller’s indictment)?

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      1. Pierre Asselin‏ @PierAsselin 19 Mar 2018
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        Do you realize that winning an election can mean tipping the balance in just a few states by just a few votes, once you have flooded the "bloodstream“ with the right mixture of propaganda?

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      1. Todd Hoff‏ @toddhoffious 19 Mar 2018
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        Then why would they do it if they didn’t feel it would change the outcome of the election? That’s a lot of money and effort to expect zero return on their investment. That’s not reasonable.

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      2. Tom M.‏ @Tomolitics 19 Mar 2018
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        Counterpoint: In an election as close as 2016 where the loser won the popular vote by +2.9 mil but lost crucial EC states by squeaky-thin margins every little bit of targeted influence may have helped/hurt, especially when only one side had an illegal data advantage.

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      3. Dale Henry Geist‏ @dalehenrygeist 20 Mar 2018
        Replying to @Tomolitics @HeerJeet

        Right you are. No single factor ever "changes the outcome." It's cumulative. If any of those factors was illegal/illicit, then the outcome loses legitimacy.

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      1. Peggy H.‏ @holtmapa 19 Mar 2018
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        Idk. Brad Parscale sure sounded like he believed the social media manipulation won the race. And who did Trump put in charge of the 2020 campaign?

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