I don't see anything here about "nonwhites." He's saying that freedom is unworkable in societies that haven't attained a certain level of maturity; one of his examples is medieval Europeans under Charlemagne.
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon
Right -- but he wouldn't consider France or any other white nation to be immature any longer. It's pretty clear who the barbarians are (especially if you consider his policies for East India company).
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Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon
Not sure about "any white nation." Russia, for example, was widely regarded as "barbarian."
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon
Russians were hardly considered white in 19th century (or even much of 20th century).
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Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon
Are you saying that an ethnic Russian immigrant living in the American South in the 1930s would have been considered "colored"?
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Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon
Non necessarily colored but certainly not pure white. 1920s/1930s Klu Klux Klan, for example, would almost certainly not have accepted a Russian-American as a member.
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Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon
Sure, but the KKK had their own definitions of who qualified as a proper American--a Catholic would have been off-limits too, of course.
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Indeed, my French Catholic, Cajun great-grandmother once spoke of fearing the clan when they lived in (I think) Lafayette
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Yep. 1920s Klan in particular was as anti-Catholic (and anti-Jewish) as anti-Black.
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Also (back to the original point), when did it become illegitimate to admire and embrace some of an influential thinker's ideas without having to embrace or admire all of them? If this is considered impossible, we have no one's shoulders on which to stand—and no one ever will.
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Nobody is saying you can't admire parts of original thinker. What I'm saying is if you are "picking and choosing liberal" you should acknowledge that and not pretend you are "classical liberal"
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Hmmm. Maybe "p&c liberal" isn't the best name though. Does "modern-classical liberal" work?
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Replying to @PamelaParesky @conor64 and
No because modern & classical contradict each other. Just say libertarian or neo-liberal or whatever needed to indicate difference from historical classical liberalism.
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