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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @clairlemon

      Classical liberalism has no authoritarianism & identity politics? John Stuart Mill thought non-whites had no free speech rights.

      15 replies 1 retweet 30 likes
    2. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

      Can you point me to a specific passage saying that?

      2 replies 0 retweets 12 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon

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      This, from On Liberty:https://twitter.com/cdrogers2991/status/971974621963567104 …

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    4. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

      I don't see anything here about "nonwhites." He's saying that freedom is unworkable in societies that haven't attained a certain level of maturity; one of his examples is medieval Europeans under Charlemagne.

      2 replies 1 retweet 42 likes
    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon

      Right -- but he wouldn't consider France or any other white nation to be immature any longer. It's pretty clear who the barbarians are (especially if you consider his policies for East India company).

      2 replies 0 retweets 7 likes
    6. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

      Not sure about "any white nation." Russia, for example, was widely regarded as "barbarian."

      2 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon

      Russians were hardly considered white in 19th century (or even much of 20th century).

      3 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    8. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

      Are you saying that an ethnic Russian immigrant living in the American South in the 1930s would have been considered "colored"?

      2 replies 0 retweets 26 likes
    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon

      Non necessarily colored but certainly not pure white. 1920s/1930s Klu Klux Klan, for example, would almost certainly not have accepted a Russian-American as a member.

      2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes
    10. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

      Sure, but the KKK had their own definitions of who qualified as a proper American--a Catholic would have been off-limits too, of course.

      2 replies 0 retweets 17 likes
      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 8 Mar 2018
      Replying to @CathyYoung63 @clairlemon

      Right -- but KKK definition had real sway in states where Klan included powerful political figures (and influenced legislation, as with immigration act).

      10:06 PM - 8 Mar 2018
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        1. Cathy Young  🇺🇦‏Verified account @CathyYoung63 8 Mar 2018
          Replying to @HeerJeet @clairlemon

          Obviously racial/ethnic classifications have always been complex. Getting back to Mill though, I think he was pretty explicit about separating culture from race/ethnicity.

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