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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

    Jeet Heer Retweeted Emily Nussbaum

    What I might add is that these incidences (there are more than one) is a example of communication breakdown on twitter, which happens often but isn't inevitable.https://twitter.com/emilynussbaum/status/964956433186947073 …

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    Emily NussbaumVerified account @emilynussbaum
    Sometimes all the things are true. The tweet was dumb; the response disproportionate. The hurt had a history; the defense was elitist but also clumsy, panicky. People get scared of saying the wrong thing. (Maybe they should.) Twitter makes it all feel like shouting thru straws.
    1:36 PM - 17 Feb 2018
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      2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        When I tweet something dumb (not infrequently!) I try not to get defensive when challenged but listen to those answering back. That's not easy but it's the better use of twitter than becoming embattled.

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      3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        Jeet Heer Retweeted Warren Terra

        This is definitely a dynamic that exists:https://twitter.com/warren__terra/status/964977633061519360 …

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        Warren Terra @warren__terra
        Replying to @HeerJeet
        There's also a tendency of the offending (and then piled-upon) party to use the most extreme responses as an excuse not to seriously engage with legitimate criticism of their original statement. This comes across as bad faith, especially when they're clearly nutpicking.
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      4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        I'll add that listening to others gets harder as you get more followers because you're mentions are always full, so harder to engage in meaningful conversation.

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      5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        in the good old days I only had a few hundred followers & tried to engage with everyone even Nazi trolls. That's much harder now, and makes twitter less a place for conversations.

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      6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        The best dynamic would be: 1) dumb tweet 2) people respond 3) dumber tweeter reconsiders his/own position & apologizes 4) everyone laughs, eats ice cream, & moves on. Rarely happens!

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      7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Feb 2018

        Anyways, these communication breakdowns are a failure on all sides but I do think elite journalists & editors need to be better at listening to criticism, even if vitriolic. Fuck the Nazis, sexists & bigots but listen to everyone else.

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      2. Warren Terra‏ @warren__terra 17 Feb 2018
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        There's also a tendency of the offending (and then piled-upon) party to use the most extreme responses as an excuse not to seriously engage with legitimate criticism of their original statement. This comes across as bad faith, especially when they're clearly nutpicking.

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      3. Warren Terra‏ @warren__terra 17 Feb 2018
        Replying to @warren__terra @HeerJeet

        This is something the recent NYT-affiliated Bad Tweeters have all taken refuge in: Weiss, Lipton, Stephens; even Quinn's defenders specialized in this. They played for sympathy with respect to some obnoxious pushback, as a way to avoid engaging with more reasoned critiques.

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      1. Elroy Craich‏ @ElroyCraich 17 Feb 2018
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        Hmm, I hear what you're saying but have you considered just doubling down over and over again until you've reached a logical apotheosis so horrifying you no longer recognize it or yourself but you have fought so hard to get there that you can't abandon it? I call it "frumming"

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