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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 10 Feb 2018

    Jeet Heer Retweeted Jonathan Merritt

    Milton & Locke thought Catholics didn't deserve free speech. Mill thought "immature" (i.e. non whites & working class) didn't deserve free speech. So this is completely wrong on classical liberal position.https://twitter.com/JonathanMerritt/status/962446842062663681 …

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    Jonathan MerrittVerified account @JonathanMerritt
    Classical liberalism values free speech as a great good. It never seeks to shame, shun, or silence another. It works to enable a marketplace of free thought where, it believes, the best ideas will prevail. If you refuse to hear or dialogue with a conservative, you aren’t liberal.
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      1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 10 Feb 2018

        People who call themselves "classical liberals" often seem not to have read any works in the classical liberal tradition.

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      2. One Rogue Analyst  🐝‏ @AnalystRogue 10 Feb 2018
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Free speech is an Enlightenment value, not one which is constrained by polarity.

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      3. Robert Waldmann‏ @robertwaldmann 11 Feb 2018
        Replying to @AnalystRogue @HeerJeet

        If you think both poles support the Enlightenment, then you must live on a different planet than I do. I suspect you haven't been listening to the right wing of the GOP any more than Mr Martinez has.

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      2. Joe Ro‏ @joero3 10 Feb 2018
        Replying to @HeerJeet

        Milton and Locke are pre or proto-liberals -- important to the liberal tradition but not liberals. Mill is definitely a liberal but not a rights based liberal.

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      3. Joe Ro‏ @joero3 10 Feb 2018
        Replying to @joero3 @HeerJeet

        Hobbes is also a very important contributor to that tradition -- but he sure as heck isn't a liberal. But he creates intellectual "tools" ,as it were, helpful to the liberal tradition.

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      2. Big Shell First Responder Wind Turkey‏ @dog_envier 10 Feb 2018
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        hit us with a cite for that Mill

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      3. Ollie‏ @O_lloyd 10 Feb 2018
        Replying to @dog_envier @HeerJeet

        He also thought that people of more 'intelligence' by which he meant qualifications (and therefore generally upper class people) should get more votes http://www.cyberpat.com/shirlsite/essays/mill.html …

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      1. Bart Malloy‏ @MalloyBart 10 Feb 2018
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        Thank you.

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      2. Seymour Butts‏ @sey_mour_butts 10 Feb 2018
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        also weird that free speech was an add-on to the US Constitution, ie it wasn't considered important enough for the main document? dunno the historical context for that to my chagrin

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      3. ウサギ  🏴 🌈 🌹‏ @notonbandwagon 10 Feb 2018
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        Actually, before the US Constitution many state constitutions already enshrined free speech

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