The idea of a "deep state" is simply stupid. The president & Congress have the power to change/oversee the existence, mission, & programs of all agencies. Federal workers expect to serve whoever is president. The idea that they have separate agendas is insulting, frankly.
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They are very aware that they working on behalf of taxpayers. It's like you all think they aren't human or citizens or something.
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the two concepts are hard to distinguish (Greenwald camps out on Carlson's Fox show), maybe they are both nuts? I.e. conspiratorial descriptions of democratic institutions.
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Military-industrial complex and permanent bureaucracy are two very different things. The Iron Law of Oligarchy applies in all organizations, not just govt, but we need to distinguish between nefarious consequences [military-industrial] and mere self-seeking job expansion.
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permanent bureaucracy is a good default. for me, military-industrial complex has very different meaning like the military part feeding much of $700,000,000,000 in taxpayer dollars to the industrial part for enrichment of shareholders.
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One problem in the US is too many political appointments to position that should be held by the civil service.
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I always felt the deep state was an obvious concept but was afraid to use it because of all the loons, then I had a professor who casually mentioned it all the time. I don't see how you can argue against it
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When I studied law, and public policy, it was just called “bureaucratic inertia” and was considered a good thing, because it ameliorated shocks to the system caused by changes in the executive.
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I prefer "entrenched bureaucracy" .
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... better stated as the mil-industrial-pharma complex ... maybe better even as mil-indus-pharma-plex ... aka: the mipplex ...
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