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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017

      1. This is tangential, but I'm always puzzled by the amount of credit people are willing to give to loser generals like Lee & Rommel.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      2. The argument is something like "putting aside the cause they fought for, they showed tactical genius." Which is odd, because they lost.

      19 replies 59 retweets 449 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      3. Then response is "sure, they lost, but circumstances against them. They did best with what they had." if so, they shouldn't have fought

      11 replies 32 retweets 261 likes
    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      4. In war, as everywhere, ends & means have to be aligned. If you don't think you can win a war, you shouldn't fight it.

      29 replies 38 retweets 290 likes
    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      5. Rommel & other Wehrmacht generals knew from start Hitler's wars un-winnable but went along. That's opposite of good military leadership

      38 replies 50 retweets 398 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      6. Compare the fetishization of Lee & Rommel with the fact that Võ Nguyên Giáp rarely discussed as a great military leader.

      28 replies 198 retweets 706 likes
    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      7. Giap defeated the French, the Americans & the Chinese: A European power, a North American power & an Asian power. Without precedent.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      8. If we want to separate out political cause from military leadership, Giap was clearly one of the greatest military leaders in history

      11 replies 59 retweets 368 likes
    9. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      9. I think this is right. Lee & Rommel comport to a certain aristocratic ideal of military leadership. Giap doesn't https://twitter.com/Patrick_Wyman/status/898318580365762560 …

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017

      10. Plebes who win wars (Zhukov, Sherman, Omar Bradley, Giap) don't get honored as much as aristocrats who lose (Lee & Rommel).

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        1. Michael Tae Sweeney‏ @mtsw 17 Aug 2017
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          see also: the cult that Patton enjoys vs the inarguably more successful Bradley.

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        1. Joe Meek‏ @MaisonDeSnark 17 Aug 2017
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          Grant?

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        1. penitent admirer‏ @loudpenitent 17 Aug 2017
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          Let's not forget Grant. Who was both tactically and strategically more gifted than Lee but had the misfortune to be a bit shabby.

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        2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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          11. To paraphrase the president, I like generals who win wars.

          32 replies 35 retweets 323 likes
        3. mmmPi‏ @mmmPi 17 Aug 2017
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          Maybe he's trying to make losing great again.

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        1. David 2022-RELATED PUN Walsh‏ @DavidAstinWalsh 17 Aug 2017
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          Add Patton and MacArthur to the aristocrat list. Two of the buffs' favorites. Not coincidentally, two of Trump's favorites.

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        2. WAM!ckee‏ @mckee_arthur 17 Aug 2017
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          I don't think Patton was an aristocrat. The Russian generals who defeated Napoleon were all aristocrats, and all forgotten.

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        3. WAM!ckee‏ @mckee_arthur 17 Aug 2017
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          For that matter, the most lauded military mind of all time -- Napoleon-- was a provincial upstart.

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        1. G$ Climate Sci‏ @ClimEducator_BG 17 Aug 2017
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          Rommel wasnt much of an aristocrat. Dad was an educator.

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        1. That Fuzzy Bastard‏ @thefuzzybastard 17 Aug 2017
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          Zhukov is huge in Russia. Despite not actually being that great. He was the best general to survive the purges, but no stunner

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