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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017

      1. This is tangential, but I'm always puzzled by the amount of credit people are willing to give to loser generals like Lee & Rommel.

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      2. The argument is something like "putting aside the cause they fought for, they showed tactical genius." Which is odd, because they lost.

      19 replies 59 retweets 449 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      3. Then response is "sure, they lost, but circumstances against them. They did best with what they had." if so, they shouldn't have fought

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      4. In war, as everywhere, ends & means have to be aligned. If you don't think you can win a war, you shouldn't fight it.

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    5. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      5. Rommel & other Wehrmacht generals knew from start Hitler's wars un-winnable but went along. That's opposite of good military leadership

      38 replies 50 retweets 398 likes
    6. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      6. Compare the fetishization of Lee & Rommel with the fact that Võ Nguyên Giáp rarely discussed as a great military leader.

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    7. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      7. Giap defeated the French, the Americans & the Chinese: A European power, a North American power & an Asian power. Without precedent.

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    8. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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      8. If we want to separate out political cause from military leadership, Giap was clearly one of the greatest military leaders in history

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017

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      9. I think this is right. Lee & Rommel comport to a certain aristocratic ideal of military leadership. Giap doesn't https://twitter.com/Patrick_Wyman/status/898318580365762560 …

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        2. David 2022-RELATED PUN Walsh‏ @DavidAstinWalsh 17 Aug 2017
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          It would also explain why the military glory hounds don't fetishize Stalin's marshals in the same way.

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        3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
          Replying to @DavidAstinWalsh

          Yep.

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        1. Dana Bowman‏ @TheDanaBowman 17 Aug 2017
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          Also, Lee and Rommel both right-leaning-but-less-than-their-movement, and in general it seems like right wing gets free legitimacy points.

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        2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 17 Aug 2017
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          10. Plebes who win wars (Zhukov, Sherman, Omar Bradley, Giap) don't get honored as much as aristocrats who lose (Lee & Rommel).

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        3. Vetarnias‏ @Vetarnias 17 Aug 2017
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          Unless they get themselves crowned emperor, of course.

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        2. Jeff Kaufman #stronglyheldbelief #hashtag‏ @agedgouda 17 Aug 2017
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          Second place seems to create a mystique, too. Hannibal and Napoleon both came in second place and are fetishized.

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        3. John‏ @johnlk_80 30 Oct 2017
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          I think that's a big part of it. Yamamoto gets a bit of this, too. And Prince Rupert.

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        1. james knox‏ @JamesKnoxEsq 17 Aug 2017
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          It might be a side effect of history written by the winners. Our victory is greater when we defeat a mighty foe.

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        1. Dan Smith‏ @danhsmith73 17 Aug 2017
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          Ah, Grand Illusion

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        1. Bill Shea‏Verified account @Bill_Shea19 17 Aug 2017
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          The wiki has a decent entry on the Rommel Myth: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rommel_myth …

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