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    1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 May 2016
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      2. "Neither Clinton Nor Trump" echoes, deliberately I think, the Shachtmanite slogan "Neither Washington Nor Moscow"

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    2. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 May 2016
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      3. I say deliberately because Kristol's parents had been Shachtmanites in the 1940s, so he almost certainly knows the phrase.

      2 replies 2 retweets 7 likes
    3. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 May 2016
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      4. Shachtman's full slogan was: "Neither Washington nor Moscow but the Third Camp of Independent Socialism!"

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    4. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 6 May 2016
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      5. The problem (and perhaps the glory) of Third Camp socialism is its a politics of total opposition, removed from actual centers of power.

      4 replies 4 retweets 11 likes
    5. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet Another way of looking at "Neither Washington nor Moscow" is that it's a transitional politics.

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    6. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet It is response to Moscow trials & executions, Hitler-Stalin Pact & Trotsky assassination. Ortho Trots pretend nothing has changed.

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    7. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet Shachtmanites recognize that Stalinism is not deformed, but malignant -- a totalitarian state of a new type.

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    8. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet There are on a path toward recognizing that Stalinism is a much greater danger than "bourgeois" democracy, but it takes time.

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    9. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet In this path, Shactmanites would split. Right Shachtmanites lose critique of empire, left Shactmanites insist on third way purity.

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    10. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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      @HeerJeet No doubt that Kristol knows all of this. How does he see his own trajectory? It depends upon how much malignancy he sees in Trump.

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      Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 9 May 2016
      Replying to @LeoECasey

      @LeoECasey Thing is, even under Hillary Clinton I don't think Dems have room for Kristol style politics. So do neo-cons become homeless?

      12:26 PM - 9 May 2016
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        2. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
          Replying to @HeerJeet

          @HeerJeet Or do they splinter, heading in different directions. Trump has destabilized core of Republican politics.

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        3. Leo Casey‏ @LeoECasey 9 May 2016
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          @HeerJeet Neo-cons hated 60s movements, but were never social conservatives at the core. They were always focused on foreign policy.

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