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    Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Dec 2015

    Seriously, the popularity of the term "Mary Sue" really says everything you need to know about sexism in fandom/nerdom.

    7:47 AM - 22 Dec 2015 from Toronto, Ontario
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      1. Jeffrey‏ @jefffreyspies 22 Dec 2015
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        @HeerJeet The crazy thing is I first remember hearing it applied to a male character, so it took me too long to see it as a sexist problem.

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet well, yes, but then it actually referred to a specific trope- now it's deployed against any competent female character.

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      1. Andrew Burton‏ @burtonad 22 Dec 2015
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        @HeerJeet Or, it could be a very useful construct for identifying a common form of bad writing by either gender: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2004/03/23/lb-rayford-mary-sue-steele/ …

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      1. Jeet Heer‏Verified account @HeerJeet 22 Dec 2015

        @carters_blog Sure but words take on meanings far outside original coinage.

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      1. Fairweather Johnson‏ @JTTSoundSystem 22 Dec 2015

        @carters_blog i agree there prob is but for me the term stuck because of tvtropes and how they name things

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet "Jessica Jones is a Mary sue show" ( ~5th reply down): https://www.quora.com/What-do-women-think-of-the-character-Jessica-Jones … Seriously, finding that took like 2 mins.

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet SG benefits both from being a legacy character and comparisons w traditional depictions of Superman.

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet either way, when you look at characters the "Mary Sue" label does get regularly thrown at, eg Black Widow or Gamora....

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet ...It's clear you're looking at something different than the thinly-veiled author self-inserts it was coined to describe.

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      1. iPhone Venezuela and the Fall of Morbius! Again!‏ @iphone_venez 22 Dec 2015

        @sfer222 @HeerJeet problem is, I feel like the term has already decayed to the point where it's near-meaningless.

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